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Jobs that either don't contribute in any meaningful way or jobs where one would be better off if they were paid to be on call.

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[–] silencioso@lemmy.world 98 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If your job main tool is PowerPoint then there's a high probability that your job is a bullshit job.

[–] Smkia@lemmy.world 65 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 43 points 2 years ago

Teachers' jobs are anything but bullshit. However, the modern schooling system sucks, teachers shouldn't be doing/have to do what they currently do.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 69 points 2 years ago

anything related to planning, creation and targeting of ads

[–] Narrrz@kbin.social 58 points 2 years ago (5 children)

not exactly what you're asking, but banks and insurance companies are the majority of what I call "the beaurocracy of money". they don't produce anything of value, and are basically just a sinkhole for labour.

[–] blackbirdbiryani@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I hate capitalism as much as the next lemming but banks and insurance companies, at their base level, definitely provides a service. Banks help you spread the cost of things over time at the expense of interest, and insurance companies do something similar with risk.

Its only when they do warped shit like lend money at zero interest or force consumers to pay for insurance (thereby negating the need to be competitive) that they start to leech off the system.

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[–] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 25 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Administration in general. There are so many jobs in (public and private) administration whose entire job is, to fill out forms or write reports, that nobody will ever read.

The same is true for countless middlemanager positions. It's not a full-time job to manage 10 employees who are not directly working with you. No idea how this is called in other countries, but in Germany we call it Matrixorganisation, and it's often as absurd as it sounds.

[–] spittingimage@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm in administration and part of my job is filling out forms and reports that no-one will ever need unless there's a problem in which case they become very important indeed.

In today's business environment we tend to forget that redundancy = resilience.

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[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Huh? I can go almost anywhere in the world and wave my phone at a register and take whatever I want home. Without a bank Id have to carry a lot of everywhere.

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[–] RaineV1@kbin.social 44 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago

If you can be the CEO of multiple companies at the same time, then you're probably not doing much in that position.

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[–] ManosTheHandsOfFate@lemmy.world 42 points 2 years ago (4 children)

A lot of expensive business consulting (think PwC or Deloitte) exists just to tell organizations things the orgs already know.

[–] BeefPiano@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago

They exist to take the blame. “PwC says we have to close down the plant, those damn bean counters!” - CEO who told PwC she wants to close down the plant

[–] Phanatik@kbin.social 32 points 2 years ago (2 children)

In fairness, some companies, especially the big ones, won't accept a hard truth until a third party agency tells them directly. This is primarily because the grunts of the workforce often have the most knowledge of the systems but whose opinions are easy to dismiss.

[–] 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

People I know who work in consulting have said they charge an outrageous amount of money to speak to factory line workers and say what they've said to the factory managers because the managers are too up themselves to do it

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[–] oyo@lemm.ee 41 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Tax prep software companies and tax prep services in general.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Yep.

Government already knows everything you owe.

They just cant tell you

Cause Tax prep lobbying said it would be unfair to their business.

So you gotta play the whole complicated game of figuring out your taxes, because H&R Cock wants your refund.

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[–] mrbaby@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago (5 children)

The entirety of the health insurance industry

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[–] Rednax@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

Flash traders.

They abuse the technologies used by the stockmarket to buy and sell within milliseconds, so they can make a profit. They add absolutely nothing of value to the system, yet leech both money and talented employees from the market.

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[–] z00s@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago (5 children)

M I D D L E

M A N A G E R S

This is the real reason why companies are trying so desperately to camcel WFH. Covid revealed the truth (that we knew all along) that these people add no actual value to a company. They're only there to act as a buffer between the C-suite and the peasants.

[–] Meltrax@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Managers of people can be good.

Managers of managers are almost always useless.

[–] Lancoian@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (10 children)

how are you connecting cancelling of WFH to middle managers ?

Also in your ideal company you don't have team leads department heads but peasants talk to CEOs directly ?

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[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 33 points 2 years ago (6 children)
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[–] ettyblatant@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago

Anyone who earns any portion of income by hanging shit on my doorknob.

[–] Joker@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 2 years ago

Anything in the online sports betting space. Addicts, scumbags, degenerates, and the people who make money off them.

[–] clearleaf@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Anybody working in SEO / "search engine optimisation." Complete bottomfeeding scumfuck grift. The only reason it's not considered fraud is because the government hasn't caught up to it yet.

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[–] Mossheart@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 years ago (9 children)
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[–] Apollo2323@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 2 years ago

Influencers?

[–] blazera@kbin.social 27 points 2 years ago

Landlords the worst

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 years ago

Health insurance agent, health insurance CEO, health insurance board member, etc

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (2 children)

99% of middle management could have been automated away a decade ago

[–] doublejay1999@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

lazy trope.

who hires middle managers ? Execs. Why do they hire them ? to keep a layer between themselves and the workers.

so whenever you think your manager is useless, remember he's not there for you.

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[–] son_named_bort@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] zout@kbin.social 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Any job can be a bullshit job actually. But for me:

  • People who seem to be on Linkedin most of the day, looking for leads "lets get a cup of coffee together".
  • Corporate communications.
  • People who's job consists mostly of copying data from one excel sheet to the next.
  • Government consultants, especially in IT (but not limited to IT only)
[–] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 14 points 2 years ago

"Consultant" in IT is often enough a fancier sounding title for "rentable body". You're basically working as a contractor of some sort, but officially you're a consultant.

[–] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Money managers, financial management. Yeah, they make sense in capitalism but they really don't produce anything tangible.

[–] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I think 'producing something tangible' is hardly a fair metric.

A therapist doesn't produce something tangible, but many of them provide value to their clients.

A guitar teacher (or any teacher for that matter) doesn't produce something tangible either, but they again provide value.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 13 points 2 years ago

Middle management

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 11 points 2 years ago

Corporate communications / public relations

They've largely subverted the occasionally useful profession of journalism. There's a big difference between researching things your audience wants to know, and asking someone with a commercial agenda what they'd like to tell your audience.

[–] const_void@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Diversity and Inclusion Officer

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