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[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 3 points 36 minutes ago

Seriously got lucky by inheriting one. It sucks thinking about anyone to afford one out the pockets.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 36 minutes ago

airbnb, and corporate landlords(blackstone/rock) are the blame. plus the low wages of many fields too.

[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I have so much debt that I'm certain this regime will fuck up and make it worse for me, there's little recourse to getting assistance with any sort of other debt. I keep trying to save but shit.keeps.breaking. I'll never own a home, never retire, I barely have a comfortable life. Tell me what I'm not doing what those intrusive thoughts are telling to do again?

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

declare bankruptcy, that's what it's for

[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

It doesn't clear student loan debt, I have to have a level of hardship I don't have. I'm able to pay my debts but I'm left with little afterwards. It's a crummy catch 22 system overall and bankruptcy isn't a magical get out of debt want. It hampers you in the new red lining they call "Credit Score."

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

ooooooh, yeah....for studen loan debt i recommend just paying the absolute legal minimum to keep it from any sort of collections/default status (which, last i checked was like 50-100$/month?), then pretending the rest doesn't exist.

eventually, either a sane government comes into power and clears all actively paying debts for an easy voter-support win, or the USA collapses entirely into a MAGA-amerikka paradise and we probably have a 2nd civil war...either way not your problem

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world -1 points 45 minutes ago (1 children)

I'm a millennial with a house but no retirement savings, and the WSJ tells me the average millennial has over $1m in retirement assets now, so fuck y'all and your privilege. (I'm just kidding, I know you're poor too)

[–] Psiczar@aussie.zone 2 points 35 minutes ago

Mate, there is no chance the average millennial has over $1m in retirement assets. The average Gen X doesn’t have that much and we have been working a lot longer.

[–] bestagon@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

So if younger generations have less and less capital with which to enter the housing market, then where does the value appreciation come from I wonder?

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

House flippers keep buying houses, painting shit white, then selling it to another flipper for 100k more than they bought it for

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 1 points 43 minutes ago

At this rate HGTV will have turned everyone on Earth into a house flipper by mid next year.

[–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 23 points 12 hours ago

I'm glad I bought my house when interest rates were just barely above 3%. I couldn't afford my home if I had to buy it today.

This fucking economy sucks and we need to start removing everyone in power forcefully until the problems go away. Then start again.

[–] WatchfulConsole@sh.itjust.works 56 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Duh. This is what unchecked wealth inequality is doing. As retirees sell their house to fund retirements and new properties are built, people with already sizable passive income streams are buying them up to increase their passive income streams by turning them into rentals. If you want to build more, developers need to bid against that same wealth for land, driving up the cost of the units and further driving them into wealthy portfolios. Governments are pretty much fully leveraged after covid, so they've got few assets to help subsidize affordable housing, which is often being privately sold anyway and will be sold by those owners later at market prices when these cash strapped families need the money (for retirement or unexpected troubles).

https://youtube.com/watch?v=pUKaB4P5Qns

The squeeze-out of the middle class has begun.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 32 points 15 hours ago

The squeeze-out of the middle class has begun.

The squeeze-out began in the 1970s and is in full swing.

[–] BozeKnoflook@lemmy.world 67 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

There's still hope, I just recently bought a home just after turning 40. You just need to put a ton of money into savings, go bankrupt paying medical bills after something bad happens to your spouse, spend 7 years in borderline poverty, and then have one of your parents die the same month they retire and collect their retirement fund.

I hate that the best thing my father ever gave me was his pension.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 23 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Calling my pops now. Letting him know the plan.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago

Our 85 y/o dad is pretty much our only hope for a retirement fund. Only problem is that his parents and relatives all lived to between 95 and 105. And I’m already nearly 50.

[–] Asafum@lemmy.world 12 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

your spouse

Yep, no hope lol

Can't afford anything at all on a single income. :(

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

just need both parents to die

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[–] GaryGhost@lemmy.world 13 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

In 2018 I bought a $30000 condo through fannie may, in a really bad part of the city. It wasn't great, but I had the basic necessities, utilities, bath and bed. Property taxes were under $500 per year. The down side was that I couldn't just ask people to come over, I had to always watch out for people who were watching me. I had someone let out a burst of bullets outside my bedroom window on easter morning 6am. A car alarm with the level sensor saved me tons of money. It wasn't the greatest but if we're talking about survival and living in an RV is outlawed, then gentrification is the next option.

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I would live in a nice sized RV if any fucking city in america woyld let you park the thing. Cities hate RVs

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago

as they should

[–] socsa@piefed.social 7 points 12 hours ago

Shit I live in a relatively nice part of the city and we still get occasional bursts of gunfire a few times per year. That's just part of the American dream.

[–] WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org 31 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

I've basically given up on everything. Death is more humble than participating in this culture.

[–] Asafum@lemmy.world 15 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

It's literally my "retirement plan."

After my older family pass away like my mother, father, and grandmother, I'm taking a trip to the store and buying a shotgun to eat then fucking off somewhere deep into the woods where hopefully no one has to accidentally find me.

[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Hey, I know things are dire, but remember our patron saint Luigi.

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

seriously, if your gonna kill yourself you might as well take out the worst scumbags around before you do

[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

I mean you can imagine more than that, my plan is to take loans and credit cards I have no plans to pay back, ball out all over the world and then book a solo sky dive, perhaps over an active volcano and dive straight into it

[–] socsa@piefed.social 10 points 12 hours ago

I mean at least take out some fascist politician or something.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 15 hours ago

If you're in the US, get the gun now, you might need it for other reasons. Fascists typically try to take the guns at some point. Don't believe Republican 2nd amendment bullshit. The leaders would love to take the guns, Trump even said as much.

[–] rozodru@pie.andmc.ca 10 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Honestly the best thing that's ever happened to me in my career is the AI bubble. not because it's a good thing, it's a god damn horrible thing, and because it sucks I'm making money now fixing other companies reliance on it. that's it. Without that I'd probably be unemployed right now.

Now i'm just saving pretty much everything I make because I need to finish before the bubble bursts. I've essentially entered myself into a race that I NEED to win very soon.

[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Do you mind sharing where I can find such a role and what the title for such jobs is, I'm currently unemployed software engineer but I need to start saving for the upcoming recession as well

[–] 5wim@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 hour ago

I'm interested as well

[–] guy@piefed.social 14 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Mainly the issue is not being able to afford a house, but being able to afford a house close to civilization.
There's plenty of houses to buy for 5 000 € or less but in places where the closest store is 100 km or more away.

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

and those places arent any better than the cities, small town america is even more corrupt than the cities.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Holy shit in the US a one room shack 100km from civilization would be like $80000 plus.

[–] JordanZ@lemmy.world 14 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

My uncle is retired so the distance didn’t really bother him. He bought a 1200sq/ft(~111m^2^) 1 bedroom 1 bathroom house built in the 1890’s in a town with a population of about 900….It was still $87K. So you were pretty much right on.

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[–] aesviation@lemmings.world 15 points 16 hours ago

That's okay, people like Vince Zampella still get their Ferraris to crash into walls at 100mph,

[–] karashta@piefed.social 19 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Yeah. This has been true for basically my entire adult life. Graduated high school in '02 into a job market still fucked from the dotcom crash, got my theater career into gear, destroyed utterly by the GFC. Went from construction to pest control as I was looking for more recession proof work, was a season away from getting my ACE certification... Destroyed by covid-19.

If this was it, I probably could maybe at least have a shot, but then I quit nicotine, fell while feeling sick and dizzy from withdrawal and got a TBI.

I'll be lucky if I get to continue living in anything remotely as nice as this little apartment I'm in with my brother.

Honestly, almost never had a shot anyway, even without my personal issues.

[–] unreliable@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 17 hours ago

At least almost dead people are getting a tons of money to give to they spoiled grandchild wante into unnecessary stuff

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