That’s cause Star Citizen is a grift.
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100% selling hopes and dreams. I understand there's a playable alpha, I was a backer for over a decade. There is no cohesive vision, just endless theory crafting and half baked implementations to maintain the illusion of progress, but every time they add something, they seemingly need to break something else for their 8 ticks-per-second system to be able to handle it...
Hell of a grift.
Never preorder.
The fun thing is looking into history... especially the one of Freelancer. It would never have been released if it weren't for Jörg Neumann who - in short - finished it.
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Game development as a service.
$1 billion !?
That is insane.
Elite Dangerous had a budget of £8m... if Cloud Imperium Games can't release SC for a hundred times that amount it's because it's a grift.
You did a reverse EriKa KirK there. I think you meant "grift" not "gift"
I did indeed.
I blame Samsung's appalling autocorrect.
Probably want to get a different keyboard then (one that doesn't send them everything you type, for one)
it's because it's a grift.
Always has been.
Look at the price of those ships you can buy, its always looked like a very obvious attempt to keep rolling in money while always juuuuuuust being a bit too far away to release. But just give us a few more million and we'll toooootally release it.
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Average Store Citizen player
We just need to buy another ship guise, they're so close to release!
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I spent 40$ on it back in 2013. I looked forward to playing the single player campaign.
Then I found a girl. Went through university. Got a career. Had two kids. Got a divorce. And now I have time to play it again, but feel like I've mostly grown out of gaming.
GG Chris Roberts.
My friends were very excitedly talking about setting up a corp in this when it was first announced.
They wanted my buy-in, and I asked if I could be head of HR, to which they said "yes".
So I bought it, created our corp, and performed my ideal goal: set up a corp recruitment posting called "entry-level Star Citizen player" which required 10+ years in Star Citizen.
We're now at the point where I have to find my log-in and change that to 20+ for the joke to make sense again.
I backed it a lifetime ago and have gone back and forth between “it’s a scam” and “maybe it could happen” so many times that I just don’t care any more. As broken as it is and as slow as progress has been, there has never been anything like it. I check in a couple of times every year and usually have fun seeing the sights for a week or two. I think I’ve had enough enjoyment from it to justify my original cost.
Even though their goals are unreasonable, irrational, and completely mad, they have somehow managed to fund stable development for over a decade and have actually made meaningful progress. Will I live to see it realized? Who knows. I wish them luck for both their sakes and the people who spent big money on this ridiculous dream, but unlike many others, I have no hard feelings personally. I’d like to see it realized someday, but I have no more money to give them even if I wanted to.
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I'd be just fine with an Everspace 2 multiplayer expansion with just 1/10th of this budget.
I really wish another company would come along and just do properly what CIG pretends they're doing. I would love the game SC shows in their marketing, I wish a company would come along and make their own competent version of that experience while leaving the Chris Roberts and CIG jank and practices behind. They should hire Todd Papy.
Goddamn just come play EVE, we have crime, pretty ships, and hilarity
Started EVE in like 2009, now I find it just ends up taking so much time to do anything. Never been into 1v1 PvP but do like small to medium groups, but that can take so much time to get and you might not even find anything.
So it ends up with you sitting there for ages with nothing going on, then When it does start to get interesting sorry gotta drop off to go to bed.
I think Anvil Empires might scratch a similar itch for me, while being a bit easier to drop in/out. Albion Online is one I tried too but barely even got into much PvP, maybe I should try again. I like cheap builds really, don't want to grind for hours to lose it all in 1 go. Not sure how cheap you can reasonably go in AO.
Elite dangerous is a blast for a while. And it has vr.
I haven't played since before you could go and walk around, but for what it is I loved it for a while.
Wide as an ocean and deep as a puddle but it takes a long while to notice the lack of depth and it's a blast to pop in your vr headset and some good country trucking music and just hop around the galaxy trading.
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No flying though. I'm looking for airplanes in space and sometimes SC can scratch that itch but E:D is the better product.
Like you literally cannot "fly" your damn spaceship, you have to use a point and click interface (at least the last time I checked). I wish SC was a good product and I'll be sad the day E:D goes offline but EVE is definitely not it for me.
edit: E:D is elite dangerous for people that don't know what the fuck all these space dorks are talking about
You have a sandbox for griefers. Nota chance in hell. Eve is not even remotely close to similar except it too grifts players
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yeah but how sick is the game gonna be after $1 billion in funding
Now imagine it being double that good for just $2 billion!
Lmao.
Even my non-gamer wife knows about the scam that is SC. Honestly, at least it's just whales who fall for it, who had too much money undeservedly either way. 🤷
I've played elite dangerous for 4k hours. Done everything there is to do in that game. Had a great time. Glad I chose that game instead of the SC scam.
People still contribute to this scam? That‘s a shame.
I can somehow understand the people who funded it in the first place, but who invests now in a project which has already been in development hell for more than a decade and produced barely anything playable. Every whale has already been milked - what return of investment can an investor expect of Star Citizen?
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I swear social media people with a very limited grip on what "scam" and "grift" means are more obsessed with Star Citizen than us who actually play it. I log on to do some space trucking when I need to relax, or want to check out whatever new has been added. I've gotten more value out of that game in the last couple of years than any I've bought since. Many AAA games I don't even remember playing.
I like this take.
It seems like there are ‘victims’ caught up in the hype and sinking way too much money into SC. But if the gameplay is enjoyable, and fits your budget? Enjoy it. Hell yes.
I love how they say "next year" like that was the expected release date to begin with.
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