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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago
[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 42 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

They voted themselves into their own misery.

I feel for the folks who had the good sense to vote anything but a demented fascist convict pedo Republican billionaire into office. But as a society, I have very little sympathy for America.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 3 days ago

I have no sympathy and I live here. But, it hurts all of us. Our voting system is so broken and rigged. We allow legal bribery in the form of campaign finance, we only truly allow two parties to be in power, we quibble over the meaningless shit, and nobody pays attention between elections enough to make informed decisions.

Fuck this country.

[–] Sciaphobia@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 days ago (3 children)

We don't really deserve it. Trump's first term could arguably be excused - maybe he wasn't going to be as awful as people said.

The second and third time we knew exactly what we were asking for. There's really no benefit of the doubt to give on time 2 and 3.

[–] ynthrepic@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Trump did heaps of terrible shit before and during his first presidency. The algorithmic internet and the laziness of mainstream media to report social media trends as news, instead of doing real journalism, are basically why we're here.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

The only positive thing to come out of the Trump presidency is that he's fully shown a light on just how broken our system is.

From all of mass media being captured propaganda pieces, to the checks and balances basically meaning nothing if a few of the people at the top are corrupt. To our justice system that's basically just partisan hacks that would rather prosecute you for a parking ticket than a pedophile rapist.

[–] tehsillz@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

cuts foreign aid yeah get those foreigner >:( arrests immigrants yeah get those immigrants >:( cuts healthcare omg i don't deserve this :'(

[–] MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm pretty sure they mean we don't deserve the sympathy. If you take into account their whole comment, it seems like they are saying sympathy is undeserved because people knew what they were getting.

[–] tehsillz@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Americans have shown the world for a year straight that they don't care about anyone but themselves, now that it concerns Americans the world is supposed to care?

Why did you comment twice? I already explained that the person you responded to is not asking anyone to care. They are agreeing that Americans knew what they were doing.

[–] tehsillz@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

you expect sympathy after showing none. that is my point.

They are not expecting sympathy though.

Someone said "I have very little sympathy for America" and they replied that we don't deserve it. They agreed.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Anyone who didn't vote democrat is part of the problem.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

I real’y don’t blame them. Here in Canada we have more than two options but constantly throw our progressive one under the bus to vote “strategically”. Now our “centrists” are conservatives that are selling off our resources to private companies and our progressives are weaker than they have been in a long time.

Centrists have one weapon, and it’s not their policies. It’s the fear the fear of the further right wing party. Look at how they fought Mamdani despite him handing them a win, they do not give a shit about anything except making sure that people are too afraid to vote properly. The US is a shit hole with or without the DNC and they only care about votes so it’s time to take those votes away from them.

I think conservatives are stupid, hateful thugs but centrists are a kind of slimy evil that I just refuse to get behind. I know that I’ve had a positive affect on some conservatives because many are dumb as rocks while believing they’re doing good, but centrists I know are often two-faced liars who want to look good on the surface while still doing or allowing all the same crap conservative leaders do.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

let's not forget that the dems are also the problem, they are the ones who agreed to sacrifice healthcare to open the government with no concessions.

[–] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You're right; enough about fascists. I'd rather lazer focus solely on the problems with the one and only other electable party in the country!

the only hope for this country is to fix the dems, primary all their BS neoliberal grifters, stop them from getting corporate bribes...

pretending the Dems are perfect is useless.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You are blaming the victim. Democrats are not the problem here, the Republicans are 100% the problem, just because a democrat minority failed to save affordable healthcare doesn't make them the problem.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm blaming the whole system, the dems are not the victims when they accept donations from the same corporations as republicans, and obey their donors.

they are corrupt. at best they are the "lesser evil", bit their political ratchet is complicit in this.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Always go with the lesser evil. Then try to make change to make things better.
Change is easier within the democratic party than within the Republican. You have to be an idiot to not see that.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We don't elect out leaders, we elect our opposition. it is better to have dems as opposition than republicans, but they suck, in a different less dangerous way, but they absolutely suck as well and are also responsible for what is happening.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They are not responsible for Trump, claiming that is simply delusional.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

they are responsible for doing zero opposition and basically doing nothing but performative acts.

while fighting the progressives in the party.

they aren't allies, they are just the lest shite neoliberals

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

hey are responsible for doing zero opposition

Yeah well not shooting a guy does not make you responsible for a guy being shot.
It's actually very simple, and you are blaming the wrong people. Which is pretty moronic.
We might as well say it's all your fault personally for not stopping Trump, if you haven't tried to assassinate him, you are to blame for doing nothing.
It's absolutely moronic, and it's a narrative Russia loves, in fact it's so far fetched it's borderline insane.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

plus, they are 100% responsible for Trump, they were told supporting a genocide would cost them the election to Trump, they decided to continue the genocide and lose. they are out of touch and corrupt.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That is just such a skewed view, and completely disconnected from real politics.
You are letting perfect stand in the way of progress. It's moronic, and considering the alternative was Trump, it was outright insane to not try to prevent him from achieving power.
It's insane that such an idiotic viewpoint is so widespread, and look where it got USA! And also look where it got the Palestinians! Do you really believe Democrats would have allowed it to go this far?

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

democrats allowing it to get that far?

are you fucking insane? have you read any news during the past couple years?

they absolutely did.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Failing to stop Republicans under false pretense, is not the same as actually being the Republicans who are doing all the nasty deeds. You have to be an idiot not to see that.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

do they even want to stop republicans? they are neoliberals after all. stop licking their boots. them voted to fuck over healthcare. they are as responsible for this mess.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I understand your frustration, but in a binary system like the American, you have to go for the lesser evil, if you want improvements you must join that party and work on it from within.
The lesser evil is not your enemy, the Republicans are, and quite frankly religion is too. Because it's always the Christians that swing the vote to Republicans. Just look at the Hispanic, they freaking vote Republican because they are fanatic Catholics!! MAGA without the Christians would have been nothing. Israel support without the Christians would be way more balanced to favor the Palestinians.

Put the blame where it belongs, instead of the at most tertiary factor it is to be a Democrat.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

no, voting dems is not even close to fix this. we need to remove every single neolib from the party, like Mamdani did, the dems did all in their power to not support him, yet he won without a single compromise. dems hated that. he isn't even a dem, and the DSA is growing and knows how to play the two party system and win.

the party needs to be overhauled.

and that's just the political system, we need more mutual aids and community help.

if you think casting a vote for dems will fix anything you are a moron

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

we need to remove every single neolib from the party,

Yes and you need to vote in the dems before that has any impact. Work on that part from the inside of the party. It's your only democratic option ATM.

you can't fix the party from the inside, Bernie is the perfect cautionary tale.

they'll let you talk and pretend they are as progressive as you, but not support any of your popular policies because it goes against the corporate donors.

you can prinary non democrats, but you can't fix it from the inside.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And what about the Democratic leadership that gave it all away by not fighting and capitulating without securing anything?

Voting for spineless, centrist Democrats is also part of the problem

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

You are blaming the victim. Democrats are not the problem here, the Republicans are 100% the problem, just because a democrat minority failed to save affordable healthcare doesn't make them the problem.

[–] realitista@lemmus.org 6 points 3 days ago

At least 75% of them are in red states. I hope the majority of this falls on Trump supporters.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Don't forget those who thought it a good idea to allow the orange fuck into office.

You get what you idiots voted or sat out for.

[–] CubitOom 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't know how to help my community on this front, but I will continue to donate to local food and clothing banks.

i was working on a pamphlet regarding on how to get healthcare and rights aimed at low income people. it got executed in committee hell but I'll try finishing it and posting it around local places.