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If the pushback on social media doesn't get Discord to drop these plans, then I'll just have to delete the app.
Not caving to another app asking for Personally Identifiable Information (PII) only for this same data to be leaked months to years later.
Society will do everything to protect children aside from making better parents.
The parenting aspect is a red herring. Nothing about these policies is really to 'protect the children'. The big tech groups have figured out that they can gate-keep ... everything... and require your pii/data to get to it; and that many/most people will give up that data to keep access to their content.
That said, teaching your children about the importance of privacy is becoming as important as teaching them about other harmful online content. "Don't trust a Nigerian prince, let me know if you're being bullied, don't watch porn* and don't scan your face to get on discord"
* until you're 18-ish, at which point go nuts, just know it's all fake.
I am also leaving discord, I hated it and the people who use it a lot, but used it to connect to family members. I will find other ways.
This is the same exact cycle I went through with social media, which I also left entirely. I stopped browsing a lot of sites I used to, I took most of my personal info off the internet, and ended a lot of subscriptions.
The internet lately is feeling more and more like making end-of-life plans.
Because parenting is hard and they don't need the working masses distracted by kids, they need them slaving away forever.
Let's protect the children by scanning everyone's face and ID and uploading them to a server that'll get hacked five years from now.
That sounds more like the Discord I know.
There's a disturbing amount of people thinking of the children
And said data will never be used for fake CSAM or a library for the powerful to handpick their next victims
"Hacked" I'm convinced most of them are selling it, then claiming being hacked so they have plausible deniability when the alias/e-mail you ONLY used for discord starts getting spam+. Depending on if you linked your number, etc...
For ID scans, Discord says that documents “are deleted quickly.”
Just a few months ago they had a data leak which proved that they were indeed /not/ deleting documents and ID's like they had been claiming.
Granted in that case it was mostly countries that force keeping that data but, I'm sick of companies lying and saying "lol yea we defo delete the data after"
I won't even give hard drives when recycling a computer, I pull and smash myself. Last set of old drives I cut in half with bolt cutters.
I'm actually pretty happy that Discord is killing itself. Far too many people use it as an official platform for stuff like help forums.
Maybe lets go back to basic message boards that are actually searchable, etc.
Well, looks like I'm leaving discord.
Maybe this bullshit will be the spark needed to move us all off Discord. It's fine for voice-chat in games, don't get me wrong, but I HATE how its replaced forums/wikis for so many games/mods/etc. Searching disparate Discord servers is like looking for a nonferrous straw-colored needle in a haystack.
Worse, it also makes it seem like developer support that is provided through Discord needs to be always on/always available since you can be pinged on Discord 24 hours a day. Why would you do that yourself, I don't know. At least with forums you can choose to respond on your own time frame and people have less recourse to act like you should be around and available. It's just asking for higher demand from the userbase since you're chatting with them in real-time, they begin to expect real-time fast responses.
And the garbage takes itself out, marvelous.
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't they got a massive leak for gov IDs last year? And they still pushing this bs?! Hello?
discord. the platform that has a huge pedophile problem? the platform that's sympathetic towards conservative shitheads?
that discord?
I would barely be okay with a bank or government website asking for this information, I sure as shit would not give it to a fucking chat app.
My discord account is about 10 years old. Do they assume I created it as a 6 year old? Account age alone should be enough to verify I'm an adult with reasonable certainty.
They will have some kind of nebulously described "thing" that will monitor your browsing and chatting habits on discord and use that to decide your "implicit age" and I wish any of that was a joke or rumor.
They won't just ask for your face and ID, they are also admitting that AI or something is going to be literally watching you at all times to "determine your age."
Tell me again how we're protecting kids? Where them Epstein prosecutions at? We save any kids yet? How about now?
Legally, they can't be sure you didn't sell the account, even if the email address is the same.
Not defending the policy here, it's bullshit. But I'm simply pointing out that they have excuses to beat any logic you throw at them. Logic has nothing to do with it, so it can't be beaten by logic either.
Selling accounts is against the TOS, surely they can’t be liable if that’s the case.
I'll gladly scan a face. I just happen to look exactly like Gale Dekarios
Yeah, no. Companies don't get to scan my face or ID. You know they are selling your data.
Yep, straight to Palantir.
In 10 years, when MAGA has everything locked down, and you complain about something online, they'll put out a BOLO, and instantly, the entire network will start checking every camera for your face, and within a few minutes they will have a timeline on your movements for as far back as they want, including every time you enter or leave your house. If you aren't in your house, they'll find you out there somewhere, and immediately dispatch ICE Apes to find you, detain you, and send you to the nearest work camp, where you will be leased out as a slave to some corporation.
Anyone remember xFire? It was better 15 years ago than Discord ever was or will be.
...damn I miss that shit. They were litigated out of existence by a frivolous lawsuit from Yahoo. This is why we can't have nice things.
Discord was always an overhyped crap.
Not really. At the beginning it was amazing. It took 0 resources to run while gaming and the call quality was miles ahead, nevermind the flexibility around servers and what you could do with them.
Then, as all things, it turned to shit once ot gained market share.
This is great news! Discord shooting itself in the foot is a net positive for the whole world.
Remember to review bomb it immediately once this drops
Additionally, Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adult
from the official release.
The general comment and title is simply untrue. They will require verification in cases of known adult or censored content, and in NSFW channels and servers. "Regular" content and spaces are untouched.
That said, I give it 6-10 months before it's required for all users regardless of content access.
Wow I guess I get to finally dump Discord as my last proprietary chat app.
There are lots of self hosted alternatives like Mattermost, Mumble, and Matrix (decentralized).
There's also the new Freenet River demo: https://freenet.org/quickstart/
Maybe I'll make my own discord clone lol.
Would the best alternative still be something like Matrix/Element or is there something new/better out there?
The problem with these things is that it's really hard to convince others to move to a better platform.
I will use AI image generation, such as "Thispersondoesnotexist". They can have an imaginary face for their data brokers.
They got scared when a full revolution started in discord channels.
Anyone have a FOSS with screen share / group service?
Any active Matrix spaces anyone can recommend to me? I joined a few from the public directory but they all seem dead.