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    [–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 318 points 2 weeks ago (15 children)

    Apache OpenOffice??

    Surely you meant LibreOffice. OpenOffice has basically been dead for years, with no significant work going on.

    [–] Naho_Zako@piefed.zip 62 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    Lmao I've been doing a digital forensics class online, and it's always got VMs with ancient versions of software on it, so I got to discover what Apache OpenOffice was. Love that they have to use FOSS to teach us shit since Windows needs a subscription.

    TypoI almost wrote dogital forensics. Is that using dogs to find data? Sniff out that hard drive and get datadumping boy!

    [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

    get datadumping boy!

    remember to scoop the poop after

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    [–] HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    It's an older image, not updated.

    [–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 34 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

    OpenOffice was dead before it was transferred to Apache, so it’s not old enough to excuse.

    That Firefox logo is from 2019. Oracle killed OpenOffice in 2011. Like, they actually completely stopped all work on it. They intentionally killed it at least eight years before this image was made.

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    [–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 16 points 2 weeks ago

    To expand further on your point, here are the releases for Apache Open Office (OO). We are at 4.1.6. the page for 4.1 release was last updated in 2014. It's been mainly small bug fixes since then.

    https://www.openoffice.org/development/releases/

    LibreOffice (LO) and Open Office were essentially the same application at OO 4.0 vs LO 4.1. LO had 3 major releases by 2023 before it went from 7 to 24. With the annual releases it is me difficult to gauge progress in the same way. But we are already at 26.2.

    https://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/libreoffice-timeline/

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    [–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 111 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    With enshitification nowadays, the fact that they're nonprofit is the reason why the software is good quality.

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    [–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 95 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
    [–] definitely_AI@feddit.online 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    Will they get away with it? Vee'll see.

    I'll go home now, HEY DON'T PUSH ME

    [–] rtxn@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
    [–] definitely_AI@feddit.online 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    In May 2021, after the project was acquired by Muse Group,[58] there was a draft proposal to add opt-in telemetry to the code to record application usage. Some users responded negatively, with accusations of turning Audacity into spyware.[59] The company reversed course, falling back to error/crash reporting and optional update checking instead.[60] Another controversy in July 2021[61] resulted from a change to the privacy policy which said that although personal data was stored on servers in the European Economic Area, the program would "occasionally [be] required to share your personal data with our main office in Russia and our external counsel in the USA".[62] That July, the Audacity team apologized for the changes to the privacy policy and removed mention of the data storage provision which was added "out of an abundance of caution".[61]

    Awwww... :(

    Hey at least they removed mentioning it in the TOS!

    Yeyyy!... :)

    .....:(

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    [–] fum@lemmy.world 86 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (12 children)

    Why on earth is OpenOffice here??

    LibreOffice is the maintained fork.

    It has been that way for 16 years now.

    16 years.

    There are people working full time jobs who were born the same year that LibreOffice started.

    Stop promoting OpenOffice. People will have problems with it that have been long fixed in LibreOffice.

    Edit: typo

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    [–] nieceandtows@programming.dev 70 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

    Where is FreeCad in this one? I've started using it after buying a 3d printer, and it's awesome what that piece of software lets me create.

    [–] 0ops@piefed.zip 30 points 2 weeks ago

    Shoutout to openscad!

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    [–] otacon239@lemmy.world 67 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    Heck, they won’t even let you into a difficult-to-cancel subscription! What are they thinking? Think of the revenue!

    [–] definitely_AI@feddit.online 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    I heard they don't collect your private information and sell it to third parties, either. It's as if they hate society itself!

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    [–] chaotic_ugly@lemmy.zip 66 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (14 children)

    I'm not sure Firefox belongs on this list. Google finances Mozilla's operation to the tune of $420M a year. It's not for-profit, but it's also not the same as the others.

    [–] null@lemmy.org 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

    It's an easy paycheck for allowing Google as the default search setting. If Microsoft paid as much we would be seeing the same arguments about Bing.

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    [–] synapse1278@lemmy.world 61 points 2 weeks ago

    ~~Openoffice~~ -> LibreOffice

    Seriously, don't use OpenOffice, it's abandoned for over 10 years.

    [–] lordnikon@lemmy.world 58 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

    What people don't always remember about FOSS is they are just making it for themselves they are users as well as devs. The great thing about FOSS is if someone else happens to use it that's great and maybe they will contribute to something they use.

    [–] mirshafie@europe.pub 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    Yeah and they get other devs contributing to their project. Nobody's making Firefox or Blender as a solo project, but band together with some other nerds and this is what you get.

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    [–] foodvacuum@lemmy.world 46 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

    So many people let perfect be the enemy of good. Firefox is great. It's the pillar of non-Chromium of browsers. Servo and Ladybird are not there yet and will take many years to surpass Firefox if ever. A Firefox fork has a better shot than those 2

    GIMP is great software. Is it just Photoshop and Affinity better than it. Not seeing as much hate on Inkscape when it's just Adobe and Affinity as better.

    OpenOffice is outdated but was good for like ~2010

    A bunch of y'all would have been ragging on Blender 10 years ago. Ragging on Krita. In 2012 acting like gaming in Linux was doomed. In 2015 acting like Kdenlive would never reduce crashes and improve functionality. Acted like Darktable would never be competitive with Lightroom. Godot would be no good for anything more than 2d sidescrollers and never compete with Unity 5. A bunch of do nothing fence sitters. Firefox and GIMP developers contribute more to the good of humanity than anyone crying about them in this thread

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    [–] rtxn@lemmy.world 46 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (13 children)

    So why is Mozilla shoving AI garbage nobody asked for into Firefox? I seriously doubt that their severely overpaid execs don't have some kind of profit incentive.

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    Ok, while most of these don’t have companies behind them with huge revenues, most work on these projects is done by paid developers, with money coming from sponsorships, grants, donations and support deals. (Or in the case of Linux - device drivers are a prerequisite for anyone buying your product).

    Developers getting paid to work on open source is a good thing. These projects may have begun their life as small hobby projects - they aren’t anymore. (And that’s probably good)

    [–] Psythik@lemmy.world 40 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

    Audacity sold out and is now spyware; use Tenacity instead.

    [–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
    [–] ytg@sopuli.xyz 13 points 2 weeks ago

    Not really, it's still fully FOSS, they were just terrible at communicating what they actually wanted to do and people got spooked.

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    [–] yardratianSoma@lemmy.ca 38 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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    [–] definitely_AI@feddit.online 35 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

    The biggest selling point of capitalism is innovation.

    That's why nothing was ever invented before capitalism.

    Which makes some wonder how capitalism was invented.

    But they are communists and should be shot for questioning the wisdom of the system.

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    [–] not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 2 weeks ago

    firefox? no profit incentive? we wish

    [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 weeks ago

    Boredom mostly, if their lazy bosses worked them more then they wouldn't have time to be productive at home.

    /s

    [–] DrunkAnRoot@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)
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    [–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 19 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    Firefox is not high quality. Every other browser is just worse.

    [–] Trouble@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 2 weeks ago

    Tbh I quite like it

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    [–] python@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    I've been learning FreeCAD recently and it's pretty incredible too!

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    [–] SitD@lemy.lol 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

    πŸͺŸ: absolutely atrocious. let's do for-profit low quality software instead 😑

    [–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)
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    [–] kahoodd@reddthat.com 16 points 2 weeks ago

    shoutout to MPV!

    [–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 16 points 2 weeks ago

    Blender is so incredibly good. Big fan here. I'm just a hobbyist tho

    [–] Emi@ani.social 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    I don't understand economics but why does there have to always be profit? If someone made devices that last 50 years they would go bankrupt? Make it make sense.

    [–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    They don't want some profit, or even sustainable profit. They want all the profit, and always more this quarter than the previous.

    I do understand that if somebody created something that is cheap, lasts forever and there's a limited (non infinite) need for it, they would eventually stop selling. That's why they need to make things last less, or invent excuses to make you buy a new one.

    [–] definitely_AI@feddit.online 16 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    The capitalist imperative is: make as much profit as you can as fast as you can.

    The fastest way to make as much profit as you can is not to create the best possible product. Sure, that'll get you far enough- but in capitalism there is never "enough". For instance, you could use the capital you amassed to buy up all the competition and create a monopoly and hike prices to whatever you like because people will have no choice but to buy it from you, especially if it's something essential like food, energy, housing, or what have you.

    Of course, monopolies are illegal. Not because capitalism says so, but because society says so, in order to contain capitalism, which would otherwise consume society even faster than it already does!

    Monopolies are just one ugly example, there are other ways of making super much profit super fast. Like, stealing! That, too, is illegal, because it goes against the very concept of living in a society, which itself is predicated on the idea that we are stronger and better and happier when we come together and pool our resources.

    Alas, I wax verbose.

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    [–] Konstant@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

    Reminds me a local youtuber saying something similar about non-profit companies.

    They said it's human nature to be driven by profit, so non-profits are profiting in some other way. Hence he prefers to give business to for profit companies as you know their intentions.

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    [–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

    Blender is far better than anyone not-in-the-know would expect.

    VLC does much more than just play videos, but the user interface inexplicably hides most of the functionality. Also, they've vehemently claimed for many years that it's impractical to provide backward frame-by-frame stepping, but Celluloid does it just fine.

    GIMP and Inkscape keep improving, with GIMP being the better of the two. GIMP should just copy Photoshop's interface as closely as possible. There's no shame in that, and Photoshop does many things better. Most users coming to GIMP are coming from Photoshop. (Yes, I'm using PhotoGIMP, but that really doesn't do much to help.)

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    [–] Flipper@feddit.org 13 points 2 weeks ago

    The Problem with open source is, it relies on self exploitation. Most OS Dev don't get paid, so they've got to work another jib full time. This leads to a lot of burned out devs from their project and that is a real problem.

    Before a project becomes self sufficient on donationa, it needs to become really big. Most projects simply never reach that scale.

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