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[–] pr0sp3kt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I'm sorry but this is not what makes me laugh. I think this is what is broken in the relationships. I mean why women has to be the passive role every single time? It's like im not ugly, and actually when I talk with them It goes well. My critic is why I have to start every single fckng time?

[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Uh... have you been around for the last thirty or so years? Apparently accosting women is harassment these days, so it's less hassle to wait for women to do the first step, I guess.

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Wow. You just made me realize accosting has a completely different definition than I thought for the past 25 years. God damn it that's upsetting.

[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

You made me check and apparently it's a bit more aggressive in English than in French. Now I'm curious what you thought it meant.

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I basically thought it was a synonym for "assaulted." Which is like explicitly violent. Like I was WAY off. Which is rare for me, I had like 750/800 on my SAT verbal. 99/100 on my NYS English Regents exams. That's so embarrassing to me.

Now I have to algorithmically sift though the memories of my life to see if I'm relying on that definition for any important logical frameworks that my autistic brain uses to do my thinking.

[–] realitista@lemmus.org 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because women are in higher demand than men. That's the sad truth. Women do make the first move, maybe more than you realize, but they all tend to go for the same top 1% of men. If you aren't that, then you've gotta do some work, either to chase them or to become the top 1% that they chase. It's a sad reality but that's what it is.

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't know if everyone has been paying attention to how things are trending and extrapolating, but the fact is a ton of men are looking at that scenario and saying, "eh I'm just done, I'm gonna stay home and enjoy the peace and quiet while it lasts. Less risky."

[–] realitista@lemmus.org 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If that works for them then they can do that. I think if most left the house and tried chasing girls IRL rather than online that they'd be pretty successful once they practiced a bit. As an older man, young women seem a lot more thirsty than they ever were when I was young.

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

A lot of men think differently than women about relationships though. A lot of men would:

  1. Fundamentally know they would be happiest with a woman who respects them and treats them softly and with love and treats the relationship as a partnership.

  2. Concurrently, they would be happy to accept sex if it were freely offered with no risks (but there ARE very clear risks that sometimes make them balk at sex even being worth that anyway).

  3. They believe that past behavior predicts future behavior. They see women that they would sleep with but never marry.

  4. End result: the men willing to take the risk sleep with all the women they want to. Women all sleep with that shared small group of men. Those men don't commit, they have all the sex they want and never intended to commit. The men that would have committed were friend zoned, turned down, or ignored, took that at face value as they are not valued or in demand. Ultimately choose a peaceful life as a hermit enjoying whatever they can find happiness in. Hobbies, games, friends, etc.

Is selection bias a term or did I just make that up? Perhaps women get an incomplete understanding of men because they only interact with the men they choose to interact with. At minimum I know confirmation bias definitely comes into play with all these social interactions and assumptions. And men get an incomplete picture of women just from sheer lack of exposure. They only know what they see using what limited means of remote study. Social media, news, anecdotes from each other, etc.

[–] realitista@lemmus.org 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

In my experience, the men who hook up a lot also generally end up settling down. The ones who don't, don't.

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

That sounds like you're saying "it is what it is." Which I agree with.

I was a bit hyperbolic, you're right, I apologize. They do settle down when they want to, on their time scale, but their preferences also correlate with other parameters that should be considered.

The higher social status, the more selective the man who has been pursued by women gets to be. He may say to himself I prefer a younger woman that has fewer relationships, and thus a real statistically relevant lower risk of having had traumatic experiences and the resulting damage that may affect her ability to trust him and view him through an adversarial lens.

Look at DiCaprio. People can balk all they want at the age gap thing, but consenting adults gonna bang. And he gets to be as selective as he wants and he'll never not have options.

But my ADHD has made me forget what point I was even trying to make. Sorry I ramble often.

Edit ok now that I went and re read the post I can get back to topic.

So that's my take on the men that hook up a lot. Now the other side!

The men who don't hook up don't get married. Yeah, that makes sense to me. They are too afraid to do what it takes. And honestly I think that's coming from a pervading sense of hopelessness that is growing and growing amongst that demographic. And extrapolating that further, worries me greatly. Fear leads to anger leads to Yoda was right leads to shit is on fire yo!

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[–] Icytrees@sh.itjust.works 37 points 2 days ago
[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 55 points 2 days ago (33 children)

men are discouraged from approaching women and women dont want to show their interest in clear way. How have we not gone extinct yet?

[–] jali67@lemmy.zip 49 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Because the internet isn’t real life and plenty of people know how to talk to people, including those of the opposite sex.

[–] Haunt@thelemmy.club 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That isn't as true as you think. Communication is often the weakest part of any relationship (romantic, platonic, professional).

Everyone has their own language and very few people are willing to adapt to someone else's way of communicating, even when that effort should be mutual.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think that's true today. When I was younger it def felt like people, of any gender, were more willing to try and understand other people. Like, people used to ask me what I like to do and why I like it... now they ask me what I like to do and tell me I'm an idiot for liking something that isn't the same as what they like.

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Fun story: this guy I know on my gaming Facebook group would complain about being single. This was an older men's group/dad group. He'd repeat whatever the manosphere would say and ask for validation, and we (usually married dudes) usually say things like, "Yeah man dating is hard" and "women give mix signals".

Finally, mods called out how his last 10+ posts were complaining and his shitty attitude is just sucking the energy out of the group. They warned him that if he kept it up, they'd ban him from the group until he fixed his behavior.

Fast forward to today - he's telling us about his new girlfriend he met on NYE and how they had a amazing valentines. He shared how after that post, he took a long look at himself and stopped sabotaging himself.

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[–] Maestro@fedia.io 196 points 3 days ago (13 children)

Aside from a lot of guys being thickheaded and not seeing it, there's also selection bias.

A) A girl has a crush on a guy. He notices but plays it safe. Maybe she's just friendly. Result: no harm done except perpetuating the myth that guys don't notice.

B) A girl is just friendly but the guy thinks he's being crushed on and acts on it. Now he's forever labeled as a creep.

The only safe play as a guy is always, always assuming she's just being friendly. Unless she comes right out and says she wants to hump your bones, just assume she's being nice to you.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 54 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Quadruple the caution if it's a coworker. Hello HR violation.

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[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 101 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

This makes me think of a conversation between my wife and daughter a while back.

Daughter is angry with her BF and frustrated that he seems oblivious to that

Wife: "Oh honey, no. It doesn't work like that. If I'm mad at your dad for something I just have to tell him. If he asks if I'm OK and I say, 'I'm fine', he takes that at face value. He's very literal."

Daughter: "Ugh. Doesn't that frustrate you?"

Wife: "It was weird at first but once you get used to it it's actually really nice. You just have to learn to talk to him."

Me: "Wait, I did something right?"

Wife: "You do lots of things right babe."

Yeah, I think she likes me.

[–] Bazoogle@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Yeah, I think she likes me.

Mmmm, can't be so sure. Better play it safe and look for more signs

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I think a lot of people need to learn to communicate more explicitly. There's also the ask culture vs guess culture dynamic, though I think it can extend past culture and some people lean one way or the other. There's also the idea that guess culture is feminine coded in America and ask culture is masculine coded.

To a guess culture, outright stating your desires is imposing. You hint and if they're willing to give it they offer. Furthermore saying no to a direct request is also seen as rude. In general directness is bad, preemptive offering is proper (and obviously they have to reject for fear of imposing), and hinting is acceptable. Think stereotypes of English culture. It's a stupid social dance that I instinctively fall into. To an ask culture all that's stupid, there's nothing wrong with asking for something and it's not problem to say no. It's direct and blunt. Think stereotypes of American culture.

It's generally quite good to be able to navigate and accommodate both, but as a guesser, asking is better as a default, especially in relationships. It's awkward and difficult to learn, but it takes all the guesswork and ambiguity out.

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago

Yeah communication is key. Even if you are too literal at least you are clear and not obscuring your thoughts.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 210 points 3 days ago (3 children)

We typically have no idea unless explicitly told, no.

[–] GargleBlaster@feddit.org 121 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Even then, maybe she's just nice. Or canadian

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[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Hint all you want, the decent among us will still be terrified of looking creepy. Just tell us!

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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 35 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (8 children)

Why are women even taught/expected to behave like sneaky spies when it comes to romance? "Ok, time to do my personal hair signal that I'm interested and want him to approach"

[–] prime_number_314159@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Being clear about your desire also means that rejection is clear, and that hurts.

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[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 119 points 3 days ago (9 children)

A lot of the time we do know, but we're terrified of getting it wrong and getting rejected and maybe worse.

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[–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 104 points 3 days ago (10 children)

A girl told me in 8th grade that she knew I liked her, and was cool with it. I thought she was nice for not being creeped out that I liked her, until one day on college when I finally realized what she meant.

[–] WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world 92 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Well, don't leave us bros hanging! What did she mean?

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[–] Janx@piefed.social 17 points 2 days ago (12 children)

Women are like cats. They rub on you, climb on you, try to be near you, sigh when they're next to you, and we're like "I think she's just being friendly". Also, I just told on myself that I don't have a girlfriend because I compared women to cats...

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