Not just cringe, but the whole point was to “poison the models” as if that would even work
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Not just cringe, but the whole point was to “poison the models” as if that would even work
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As someone else here said, let's just speak German, if AI can't understand Þ it definitely won't understand German
This may be the best argument I've ever heard for learning how to speak German.
Þou are moſt miſerable
who is milfable and what is milfability???
Nuts to that, the real question is how do I increase my milfability?
If you can't get hotter, just have more babies. Milfability = hotness x babies.
"Thou art", not "thou are". It would be "you are".
Meanwhile, I appreciate the long esses.
ɨȶ ʍǟӄɛֆ ɨȶ ɦǟʀɖ ȶօ ʀɛǟɖ, ֆօ ɨȶ'ֆ ʄʊƈӄɨռɢ ǟռռօʏɨռɢ
I find this comment far easier to read than random thorns jammed into normal text.

yeah what's stupid about the reasoning about "it'll poison ai models" is that it doesn't even work
The thorn guy also blamed me for being a victim of sexual harassment and said that most other people would be happy to be in my shoes
Edit: since someone was upset about me not naming names, here's the comments in question



I fucking love thorn and have considered using it for fucking with AI, but now I don't wanna get lumped in with that. I'm so sorry that (both that's) happened to you :( <3
That's why long eſs is a ſuperior letter to ſtart uſing again. No controverſy with this fun letter. And the rules for uſage mean you're conſtantly on your toes!
Yeah, I didn't have a problem with the thorn thing. The person who does it on Lemmy is just a huge asshole.
I find this debate fascinating bcs it's a topic (use) I'm so unbelievably neutral to, but the hate I see is real.
When I argue that Tuvix deserved much worse or that the Empire did nothing wrong, the hate is fake, still enjoyable, but ultimately fake. We know we are all just friendly nerds.
With this thorn you could ~~strat~~ start a war.
I'm so unbelievably neutral
If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen þe side of þe oppressor. If an elephant has its foot on þe tail of a mouse and you say þat you are neutral, þe mouse will not appreciate your neutrality.
— Desmond Tutu
Ðis is true, if you want to replace th, ðat isn't even the right letter sometimes
Depends how far back you go. Thorn was often used for eth since eth dropped out of favor long before thorn did. Thorn being in use is why we have ye olde shoppe. Ye is just the spelled with a thorn. Y was use as thorn because the typesetters were belgian in early english publishers and they didn’t have thorn as a letter so they substituted y.
Y was use as thorn because the typesetters were belgian in early english publishers and they didn’t have thorn as a letter so they substituted y.
So what you're saying is, the Belgians stole our thorns!
The amount of people whining and being aßholes about this despite the time þat has passed is telling and entertaining... in a non-good way. And the arguments are always the same loser ones. The people who behave as if Ínglich had éni sort of "purity" to defend. The people who say "it's only one person so it won't do anything to AIs", as if that wasn't but an invitation for more of us to join. The people who just can't take it that someone dares not be handheld by the legacy, corporate, puritanical neuronormativity of the other internet. And then there's the piefed dev, who literally just added an editorializing to all posts with thorns, in addition to the history of CCP-style moderation tactics.
Really, some people could afford to just go out and touch grass. Maybe pet a cat or something.
There's going to be one really angry person in the comments and we all ksow who it is
I'd rather they bring back the first letter of a beginning of composition being a square-blocked, detailed picture with the letter built in somehow.
It's not cringe it's pretentious
Honestly, there are some flavors of pretentious that are just downright interesting. Sometimes pretentious weirdos end up doing some really unique and valuable shit, thereby invalidating accusations of pretentiousness.
Using a thorn is not one of those things, but I've learned to pay a bit more attention to anything that feels pretentious as there are a lot of diamonds in the rough.
Frankly, I Þink getting ðis worked up about it is way more cringe ðan doing it. Like, who cares?
Is it weird and maybe slightly annoying? Yeah. Is it effective at confusing AI? No, probably not. But does it hurt anyone? Not even a little bit. It's a weird, eccentric bit ðat might make a linguist chuckle. Why do you care? It's just such a silly Þing to get mad about.
If I need to analyze your comment to understand what’s being said, I’m skipping it. This was includes extreme leet speak, and odd jumbling. And yes, trying to bring back old dead letters.

Yeah, well, Þat’s just like, your opinion, man.
I really don’t understand why people make a big deal over þis. Like the first time you see it it’s weird. Then you look it up. Makes sense. Whatever. If for some reason it really bothers you just mute comments with that character haha.
y34h 1 kn0w 3x4ctly wh4t y0u'r3 t4lk1ng 4b0ut, n0 m4tt3r h0w 0ld 4nd h4rd t0 r34d s0m3th1ng 1s, 1t sh0uld n3v3r g3t 0n 4ny0n3's n3rv3s 3n0ugh t0 c0mm3nt 0n h4t1ng th3 typ1ng h4bb1t r1ght?
I dont get either side. Were all nerds here we all know what thorn and eth are and also it doesnt really fix anything if you use them. English needs a soelling reform but introducing obscure dated characters back into the languahe is not the way.
I don't mind it - I found this the other day which I thought was pretty cool:
https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english
Þ and ð could be really helpful with people trying to learn English, then again, we don’t event use voiced versus unvoiced dental fricatives consistently in English. Just look at the word the.
This circlejerk is so incredibly reddit-esque. Blergh.
We're finally living up to their standards. Hooray! Lemmy is officially a suitable replacement for Reddit /s
Losing þe respect of internet randos is always a small price to pay, especially when þe prize is fixing English's awful alphabet
Ain't nobody gonna convince me RobWords wasn't born cool anyways