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Case was seen as major test of the first amendment and whether the US could use broad anti-terrorism statute to prosecute leftwing protesters

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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

When your own government has it's boot on your throat, fighting back is not terrorism. Sheesh! That should be obvious.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago

Meanwhile pro-ICE protester/influencer Jake Lang got caught trying to pick up what he thought was a 15 year old girl.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

State sponsored domestic terrorism

[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Song faces a minimum of 20 years and a maximum of life in prison, according to the US attorney for the northern district of Texas. Arnold, Evetts, Morris, Rueda, Batten, Elizabeth Soto and Ines Soto each face between 10 and 60 years in prison. Sanchez Estrada faces up to 40 years.

Just out of curiosity, has the DOJ ever gotten around to charging anybody in the Epstein files other than Maxwell? Bc there's like millions of files.

Like even just one single pedophile? Just to make the streets a little safer? Surely if they can make all this complete bullshit stick they can make something from those files stick, right?

I'm sure they're more than motivated and will be getting around to it soon. It's only been 14 months and they probably just got a little distracted.

They had to take care of the much more dangerous members of a made up organization. Now that that's all cleared up and out of the way, I'm sure the hammer of justice will be swift for all those names that show up over and over again in those files....

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nope.

A few have faced professional consequences, but that's it

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[–] ViceroTempus@lemmy.world 63 points 2 days ago (3 children)

If they are going to process you as terrorist anyway, then you might as well make moves that are worthy of the label. After all the only real difference between a freedom fighter and terrorist is the narrative.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Jein. There's also the problem that antifa believers generally have universal morals, such as killing is bad.

[–] AngryRedHerring@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We killed a whole bunch of Nazis about 80 years back and that worked out pretty well

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well akshually - as a German who paid attention in history class:

  1. killing Nazis was an act of necessary self-defense to accomplish anything. A precondition, if you will
  2. what worked out pretty well was the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Plan and especially the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denazification - I will be forever grateful to the Allied Forces for getting this right. It made Germany the least fascist nation in Europe for well over 60 years.

The long lasting effects were not permanent, unfortunately. I might like to ask for another allied victory over Nazi Germany soonish, with a new Denazification. Except there are no "Allied Forces" left that stand against Nazism :( And I am not trying to be dramatic, this is actually fucking with me for the past 10 years or so.

[–] AngryRedHerring@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Well actually, we were kind of hoping that you guys might gang up and save us from our lunatic this time

[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I mean, it won't be long before we are utterly defenseless.

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The prosecutor said, "They're here because they ambushed a cop." WTF?!?! Well then, on Jan 6th a mob of fucking MAGA terrorists ambushed a lot of police officers.

[–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 13 hours ago

A whole bunch of people were charged and convicted for that. The only hypocricy is the pardons.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

This is not surprising, given the current state of the US. What's surprising is how fast they were able to turn on their own patriotic narrative to just become submissive to it all.

[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

There shouldn't be a law against terrorism. Real terrorism already involves serious crimes (murder etc.). There should not be a law defining "being a terrorist" as illegal.

"found guilty of support for terrorism" is bullshit.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

If the bill of rights is not applicable, they are beyond laws.

The rules are made up and the points don't matter.

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[–] TwilitSky@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Whatever side you're on, this is worrisome. Today it's Antifa, tomorrow it's the Tea Party etc.

Weapons can be repurposed as new parties take power endlessly until finally some sane group of souls has the decency to legislate away malicious prosecutions based on politics.

[–] CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net 295 points 2 days ago (1 children)

When being against fascism gets you charged as a terrorist, you live in a fascist regime.

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 148 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And all those concentration camps they're building aren't just for immigrants.

[–] angrystego@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Even if they were, it would count.

[–] M137@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Yeah, if they were "just for immigrants" they wouldn't be any less bad. They're horror made real either way, which is the main reoccurring reality of what's happening.

[–] BillCheddar@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The first Texan to roll Paxton into the Gulf of Mexico wins.

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[–] choui4@lemmy.zip 183 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thats actually insane. This is a HUGE HUGE HUGE deal

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 75 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Every other day it's something that's a HUGE HUGE HUGE fucking deal. It's done, the frog is boiled. Violent rebellion or accept fascism, choose one.

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[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 122 points 2 days ago (5 children)

They pointed to the fact that the demonstrators took steps to prevent their cell phones from being tracked.

Prosecutors also pointed to the way that the protesters used Signal, a widely-used messaging application, as evidence of their coordination and conspiracy. The protesters used pseudonyms on the app and had messages autodelete, an increasingly common practice among protesters and journalists who are concerned about government surveillance. They also emphasized the defendants were wearing all black during the protest, sometimes describing it as “tactical” gear.

That just describes my normal non-protest day. The fuck is this?

[–] AltoCuddle@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My black T-shirt is now tactical gear.

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[–] rossman@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

Cant they use jan6 as a counter example? How does bondis statement have credibility based on her Epstein performance. Did a quick read but doesn't this stuff lead to civil war?

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 days ago

Voting Republican supports terrorism and that’s okay so can we drop the dramatics and call the charges out for what they really are? They inconvenienced rich people.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

Only seems that way because the real terrorists are running the system

[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 117 points 2 days ago

I belive the term here is "kangaroo court"

[–] choui4@lemmy.zip 119 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Sanchez-Estrada was the only defendant not at the protest, and was only charged with corruptly concealing a document or record, after prosecutors say he moved leftwing zines following the arrest of his wife, Maricela Rueda, on the Fourth of July. Song also escaped after the incident and there was an 11-day manhunt for him.

WTF THEYRE COMING FOR OUR ZINES!!!???

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 69 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I'm confused. Is a left wing magazine one that promotes the ideals of freedom like fighting against government overreach against your people? Is a left wing magazine one that advocates for defending your friends and family against masked thugs using any means necessary?

Because apparently I know a lot of Republicans on the Antifa payroll.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 45 points 2 days ago

another rule of fascism, always accuse your opposition as terrorist, so that your Peblian support remains strong.

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 44 points 2 days ago (3 children)

A police officer arrived on the scene shortly after and drew his weapon at one of the people allegedly doing vandalism. One of the protesters was standing in the woods with an AR-15 and hit him in the shoulder. The officer would survive.

Even this conviction is bullshit. The cop drew first. Song shot in defense of others.

[–] NoTagBacks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 days ago

The standards of ROE they hold fucking police officers to is absolutely fucked. They draw their weapons at the drop of a hat and fucking POINT a weapon at unarmed people all the fucking time. The second weapon safety rule is to NEVER point your weapon at anything you do not intend to shoot. IN A FUCKING WAR ZONE, a mfer could be cursing at you with a goddamn AK pointed at you and ROE say you still aren't justified to engage. If a cop points a weapon directly at someone, that establishes intent by basic-ass weapons safety rules that these jackasses are supposed to be trained in. Charge all cops with attempted murder that point weapons at unarmed people. And I mean that unironically, pass a law and everything. They can't keep getting away with escalating all these situations so fucking often that people feel the need to arm themselves and put on body armor just in case they run across a cop. And if these baby-bitch cops can't be trusted with firearms, how about we take their fucking guns and arm minorities instead. At least minorities in America actually have a reason to fear for their lives enough to arm themselves.

[–] VetOfTheSeas@discuss.online 10 points 2 days ago

It's interesting how there are more dead protesters than police forces.

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[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

This is now going to be imposed nationwide. It's inevitable at this point. And don't blather on about We The People rising up in revolution. That's impossible in a postindustrial society.

[–] BigTurkeyLove@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

How is any jury finding them guilty, deck has to be stacked because the ratio of ice supporters to nonsupporters even in Texas isn't enough to get an average jury to vote guilty. This is coming from a guy in Oklahoma. All they need is 1 juror to hold the line.

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago

This is a big big fucking deal and big hit to freedom here.

I can hardly believe this outcome.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 65 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Any candidate for the 2028 Democratic presidential primary better be getting asked about pardoning all these people

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