iOS is just a more UNIX, better designed, Windows. Closed OS of American big tech. If you are choosing between those two masters, go for it. But if you don't want to be a serf to US big tech, or want to get the most out of old hardware, come find FOSS. It's a far healthlier relationship.
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i want ios to perish
iOS user here - I hate Microsoft, and have disliked Windows since before XP. Linux is more conducive to my preferences. Surprisingly, so is iOS for how I need/want to use a smartphone.
IOS users hate Windows. Linux users hate Microsoft.
I don't hate Microsoft, I hate nonfree software. I happily use free software developed by Microsoft, eg VSCodium.
I even avoid that, because of their EEE past. Also because if I'm going to run something as heavy as VSCodium, I might as well run Jetbrains IDEs which I personally find more ergonomic. Nonfree software, sure, but I like them as a company generally.
Iโve been using Linux, Mac, and Windows simultaneously for over a long damn time and I say this:
Mac
Mac terminal is still Linux and you can do Linux things with it. I use homebrew stuff all the time - but mostly just do as your told and youโll be happier. Also, it really helps if you have a few extra pesos in your pocket. I mostly use little Linux boxes to do Linux things rather than Macs. I use Macs more when Apple has decided they like computers and they work great. I move away when they see something shiny and start to depreciate what I have already bought. I will NEVER forget how bad they screwed me with Aperture. However, the Mac Mini is a great product and I use it for what itโs good at.
Windows
NT 4 was peak Windows. As far as Iโm concerned, there is nothing outside of equipment OS that canโt do. Also, nothing useful added to Windows since then really works as promised. (Unlike Mac) Excel is still as slick as a catโs ass and they keep making it better. It doesnโt work on other OS platforms as well.
Linux
It is only for people who love computers. Believe it or not, not everyone does.
I hate IOS as well.
Yeah, Cisco IOS can be pretty confusing.
IOS is great. So is iOS.
Yup. Have no issues with my iPhone. Tried Android once and it ainโt for me.
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Banks website works.
My bank uses 2fA where if used in a browser it wants me to scan a QR code on the screen with another app on my phone... I need a very complicated set of mirrors for that to work...
On the subject of banks, some cuntey banks only provide two options: app and in-person visits. So if you live out of state and the app doesnโt work for you on your version of Android, youโre fucked
Linux: I run the bank
z/OS: No, you don't.
My bank has a website I can use to bank through, I dont even need an app.
The whole issue with banking apps must seem strange to people in some countries, and make perfect sense to people in other countries. My whole country rely on a 2FA app made by the banks. It's in every aspect of society. Buying a bus ticket, booking a time for health care, doing taxes, applying for an apartment, signing contracts, all done with the same banking app. Only people with stallmanesque convictions manage without, with lots of effort. So far that app works on e/os/ and GrapheneOS, but not regular desktop Linux.
Oh, that's a terrifying single point of failure.
I agree, and it's run by private companies who could just shut it down or use it in evil ways. Our government is maybe making a state owned solution, but it will take time.
Linux users sampling self-hosting options
Most bank apps work on Sailfish OS via Android App Support. Some don't.
I literally don't do any finance on my phone at all. This image is qualified
I feel kinda trapped into iOS. i have a whole ecosystem I've been invested in for ages. Plus if I leave my wife will crucify me. also bought this expensive ass phone and that's it for now.
i have a whole ecosystem Iโve been invested in for ages.
That's precisely why I've been avoiding Apple for decades.
Well yeah that's Apple's whole shtick, making anything only compatible with their own ecosystem with as much lock-in as possible. It's a genuinely drug dealer-like approach, they've even got "the first one's free" with cheap Ipads and Neo.
I feel kinda trapped into iOS. i have a whole ecosystem Iโve been invested in for ages.
WE FUCKING WARNED YOU
We FuCkInG wArNeD yOu
Bud I've been doin my best I don't need this.
Yeah, you're good. Some people are just bad at expressing themselves.
We all understand the systems that they use to tie you into their walled garden.
Escaping takes time and money now (and it isn't like PC hardware is cheap currently...). You can still get a cheap tower from whatever marketplace/craiglist service is popular where you live and setup a Linux server and do things that are compatible with your existing devices like pi-hole, Jellyfin, etc.
I know a lot of programmers and sysadmins that use Apple laptops to interface with their Linux backend.
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You know, over the last few years, I've gained a begrudging respect for Apple. They really care about UX, Ui, build quality, OS efficiency, battery life, and they're even the best value proposition at several price tiers. I main Fedora and GrapheneOS at home, yes, but I enjoy macOS and iOS at work. macOS has some of those key professional applications that haven't made it to Linux yet.
Apple is a pretty easy 2nd place in most areas, 1st for laptops specifically. Windows & ChromeOS can fight for 3rd but they're miles below macOS and Linux.
MacBooks are just better. Even before apple silicon they had a distinct fit and finish advantage, but now with the M series chips they are just on a completely different level.
Have to agree. I used to write their laptops off as a joke before 2020 due to them having the worst feeling/least reliable keyboard and having overheating issues, however they addressed every issue I had with their laptops when they debuted the M1 models. This seriously made me change my opinion of Apple overall and even the new MacBook Neo is impressive for the price too.
Yet over here as someone who has used macOS professionally for over a decade, I feel like I'm watching the slow deterioration of the operating system as they ignore the wants and wishes of professional users and make the whole thing more and more like a mobile OS with every update.
And at the same time it feels like the number of bugs and broken features which Apple were historically careful to control are getting worse as they prioritise moving fast over being robust.
They are still outperforming Microsoft in every user-centric metric IMO (and by a long way) but the current trajectory absolutely feels like things are getting worse, not better.
yep, hardware became better. Software became worse
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really care about ... build quality
Glad for you that has changed lately. Apple's is the only (and most expensive) hardware I've ever had severe problems with ... twice. (In between, that clone they killed worked great for 7 years.) Not buying it.
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