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Please note this does not mean the USSR wasn’t that way. Just want to clarify I’m not a tankie, lol.

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[–] slemptastrophe@piefed.social 121 points 4 days ago (5 children)

You know how you hear stories sometimes about shadowy government agencies converging on an area for no apparent reason, and then leaving just as fast as they came? People usually assume it's aliens, but I wonder how many of those incidents have been stupid shit like this.

[–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 59 points 4 days ago

The army/airforce actively spread rumors of aliens to hide their activities.

[–] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 25 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Probably all of those, because it's really unlikely that aliens have come to earth and even less likely that an advanced civilization capable of interstellar travel, would ever get busted.

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[–] redsand 19 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

Military term for this is "broken arrow"

It happens more than you would think mostly by the US but also Russia. Usually they find the things pretty fast but a few are just missing and at least one I remember was underwater somewhere it couldn't safely be recovered so the area is patrolled.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Are you referring to bombs the Air Force accidentally dropped or the Navy losing nuke subs? Cause we’ve done both and no one has explained what happened to the USS Scorpion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sunken_nuclear_submarines

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[–] Charlxmagne@lemmy.world 43 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)
[–] forrgott@lemmy.zip 61 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

Half my immediate family has cancer from undisclosed testing causing nuclear fallout over swaths of the southwest US..

US is run by assholes.

[–] PhoenixDog@piefed.ca 20 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

🌏 👨‍🚀 🔫 👨‍🚀

[–] VinegarChunks@lemmus.org 3 points 3 days ago

I went to a beach on the Jersey Shore and saw this sign

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[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 76 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

Source? EdIT: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1961_Goldsboro_B-52_crash

Both of the weapons began their firing sequences upon separation from the aircraft, despite safeguards meant to prevent that from occurring.

[–] coalie@piefed.zip 55 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This also happened in South Carolina a few years earlier. Unsure when it was revealed to the public. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1958_Mars_Bluff_B-47_nuclear_weapon_loss_incident

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 36 points 4 days ago (1 children)

God damn the US has so many nukes it can lose them like coins in a sofa.

[–] nulluser@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Continuing...

The other bomb did not get as far into its firing sequence, but became deeply embedded in a muddy field, and one of its major weapons components (the thermonuclear "secondary" stage) was regarded as irrecoverably lost after an extensive, failed effort to recover it.

Me: "IT'S STILL THERE?!?!"

Continuing...

In 1962, the landowner was paid $1,000 to grant the United States of America a perpetual 200-foot (61 m) radius circular easement over the remains of the buried second bomb.[56][57] The site of the easement, at 35°29′37″N 77°51′30″W, is visible as a disturbed area, and lies approximately 250 feet (76 m) north of an obvious circle of trees (and disused cemetery) in the middle of a plowed field visible on Google Earth.

[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 days ago

Time for spicy pilgrimage!

Satellite image of the easement

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 14 points 4 days ago

$1,000 to grant the United States of America a perpetual 200-foot (61 m) radius circular easement

worst deal than selling Manhattan for some beeds.

[–] VictorPrincipum@sh.itjust.works 12 points 4 days ago

Thermonuclear secondary stages, A.K.A. the "Fusion" portion don't detonate unless the first stage has been propperly ignited. While Lithium Deuteride (the second stage fusion fuel) is not safe to handle (corrosive and explodes on contact with water) it's not going to cause a blast comparable to even a fision bomb.

[–] IntrovertTurtle@lemmy.zip 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Holy shit, that close to Raleigh?! Most of the state would have been wiped off the map twice. Maybe parts of VA and/or SC!

Edit: Apparently it would have only taken out a few cities. Hollywood is wrong again!

[–] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 19 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Raleigh would have been fine. VA and SC would have heard the explosion but nothing worse. I checked it with a nuclear blast simulator. Even the Tsar Bomba would have killed less than 5% of the population of Raleigh.

"260 times the yield of the Hiroshima bomb" sounds impressive, but most of that energy is wasted heating the nearby air rather than increasing the blast radius. This is why modern nuclear weapons use cluster munitions with smaller yields.

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[–] prettybunnys@piefed.social 52 points 4 days ago (15 children)

It would really only be comparable if they nuked north Carolina then tried to cover it up.

It’s not shocking that the military keeps classified that sort of thing, they’d have been hard pressed to keep an actual nuclear detonation classified/hidden 🤷‍♂️

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 51 points 4 days ago (1 children)

A near miss and a disaster are worlds apart in terms of consequence, but very close in terms of what went wrong.

[–] prettybunnys@piefed.social 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Tbh the bomb exploding would be worse because you’d have the kinetic blast and death from that PLUS fallout (though on the east coast that fallout would likely be headed to Europe)

They didn’t drop the bombs by accident, there was a plane crash, the plane broke apart and the bombs began arming themselves as part of the separation process, but didn’t detonate due to the failsafes.

[–] turmacar@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago

To be clear the failsafes barely did.

Of the steps in this diagram the only one that prevented a nuclear detonation of the first bomb was the arming switch. In the swiss cheese model of accidents, out of 17 layers of protection, 16 failed. The safety mechanism that succeeded in this case had a history of failing because nuts in the plane could fall down and short the switch, arming the bomb unintentionally in flight.

The pilots who bailed out were both arrested by base MPs for 'stealing parachutes' while trying to get to the base and warn about the unsafe condition of the crash site. It probably didn't help that the first pilot to make it to base was black in NC in the 60s.

[–] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Making a mistake with something intended to kill people vs making a mistake with something that provides a public good show different levels of intent. One of them was a city destroyer on purpose and the other was a city destroyer on accident.

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[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 20 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The largest population of Marshallese people in the continental United States is in Springdale, Arkansas, just a short drive from where I live.

Why is there a large Marshallese population in Arkansas?

Well, you see, between 1946 - 1958, the US government detonated sixty-seven (yes, 67) nuclear weapons on the Marshall Islands, rendering dozens of the islands uninhabitable.

I suppose you could call it a "big whoops" except for the part a where they were fully aware of the dangers of radioactive fallout and just did it anyway.

tf didn't they drop nukes in arkansas instead? i'd rather live in the Marshall Islands

There's a whole list on Wikipedia of Super Fund sites that might at first give you the impression that we as a nation monitor, manage, and clean up the spills of toxic and radioactive waste that happen by industry in this country.

If you start reading about these cases you'll realize how fundamentally inadequate our legal system is to punish and prevent toxic materials from escaping into everything from our drinking water to our grain.

It's not just the scale of mistakes and mismanagement, but also the unvarnished evil that lurks in the heart of our nations executive class that intentionally buries radioactive materials and builds a school over it to cover it all up.

Not everything gets a movie made about it especially when the victims of the toxic horror are not white.

Then there are the casual everyday mismanagements that we allow to occur because the owners of those institutions have lots of influence on the government to lower standards and evade punishment.

https://youtube.com/@uscsb The USCSB is another great resource for seeing how poorly our regulatory establishment is equipped to enforce standards on industry.

[–] voiceofchris@lemmy.world 29 points 4 days ago

For us not to qualify as a backwards ass country we'd also have to pretend that three mile island wasn't one lucky accident away from doing just what Chernobyl did.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 23 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Isn't the US Air Force still missing like 5 bikes that they lost over the decades?

I could go over mk ultra and other fun little government projects but I guess people already got the point

[–] Shindo66@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago

I was wondering where those neighborhood kids got those air force bikes...

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago

At least it was bikes and not nukes.

But speaking of nukes I don't get why they didn't continue the lie. If I was an asshole I sure as fuck would not let that go public.

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[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If Chernobyl had almost exploded and melted down, I wouldn't blame the USSR for trying to hide it.

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[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago (6 children)

That explains so much about North Carolina.

~ngl, sometimes I kinda wish they had exploded a little bit.~

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[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 17 points 4 days ago

Turns out the USA has a long list of nuclear near miss and minor disasters, we just don't like to talk about them. Well There's Your Problem podcast just did a lengthy episode chronicling the more notable publicly-disclosed ones, including the ones in North Carolina. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqJR6kgwCio

same thing happened in Spain, they dropped a couple nukes and one actually detonated but I'm such a way it didn't trigger a nuclear explosion, just fill the area with highly radioactive material.

[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Also one of the cores was ever found and is still lost somewhere.

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Yeah... the US track record is completely blank, nothing to see here. It's a long episode but also pants shittingly terrifying...

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Accidentally dropping a nuke is wild.

[–] black0ut@pawb.social 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It wasn't even the only time. They also accidentally dropped 4 more nukes in Spain, 3 of them over land. And the bombs actually detonated (but failed to trigger a nuclear explosion), spreading radioactive material around.

1966 Palomares Accident

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[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And we've done it several times. On domestic soil.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

they're called Broken Arrow incedents

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[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Wholesome opossum lady isn't a tankie?? Thank God.

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