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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Why agnostic? Like... If there's no proof, why believe in the existence of a deity at all?

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 1 points 2 minutes ago

Eh, I think there's a decent semantic dispute for it. It's of course dependent on your definition of deity and is mostly an exercise of pedantry. However, with the size of the universe I think there's a pretty decent chance that there exists an intellectual being that could be interpreted as being god-like to the human perspective.

Now I'm not making claims that this proposed being has ever had anything to do with humans, nor are they responsible for any universal creation. Just that the universe is big enough for the existence of something significantly more advanced than humans. That being said, the size of the universe that allows for the possibility of this proposal also makes it possible existence mostly pedantic.

[–] froh42@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I was an agnostic for a very long time.

My main view of things - I couldn't know if there was a god or if there wasn't. But all that ultimate judgement shit never made any sense for me. If you're just behaving decently because of fear of ultimate judgment, then you're not a decent person. Ok if god would want me not to be an asshole, I'd need to be that out of my free will. And if a god demanded adherence to some random rules out of the blue - that god wouldn't have a moral compass and I wouldn't want to have to do anything with them in my life, being smitten down at the end would have been a consequence for me anyways.

I just want to be no asshole. So the question of there's a god or not. I don't care. God is irrelevant.

Thus: agnostic

I started staying I'm an atheist somw time ago, as that's just quicker and I can go by without explaining.

Still - if there's a god around, which is possible but improbable - I'm making sure I make fucking good use of the free will they gave me.

[–] zemo@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I've always considered agnostics to be atheists who just don't wanna debate. At least that's why I used to call myself an agnostic when I was younger.

[–] Tonava@sopuli.xyz 3 points 47 minutes ago (1 children)

I used to say agnostic because at that point all the atheist discussion I saw in public was aggressively anti-theistic, and I found it equally stupid to very strongly believe in either direction about things there's simply no way to know. Now I just say atheist because it doesn't mean only "I hate religion with passion" anymore

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 2 points 24 minutes ago

i call myself a devout agnostic. the justaposition of those words is inherently absurd since part of agnosticism and identifying as such is believing there is value to studying theology even if you yourself don't believe the theologies you're studying because ultimately prior to colonization, religion was how groups of people encoded and passed along their wisdom. however saying "devout agnostic" throws people enough off balance enough to introduce them to these concepts since so many say with their whole chest that they're something when traditionally these terms have meant something else to the people who use them.

for example, an astounding (at least to me) number of people say quakers and unitarians aren't christians. when you dig down on this you often find that this position is rooted in a believe (both positive and negative) that the fundamental mechanism and experience of christianity is trauma. however, when you look at the broader world of religion, you find that that's mostly only Christian denominations rooted in the theologies of the roman empire such as roman catholicism and the various european orthodoxies like Greek and russian. however, the oldest denomination, Ethiopian Orthodox, would i think to the people who say quakers and unitarians aren't christians, seem very unchistian. for that matter, i think so would Native America Christianity, Oriental Orthodox, and Armenianism. (fun fact, the Unitarian church is rooted in Oriental Orthodox, which is either the second or third oldest christian denomination)

[–] MissJinx@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

.. and piracy! yeah

[–] justme@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 hours ago

As in the R.E.M. song: "boobs are my religion"

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 6 points 15 hours ago (2 children)
[–] BreadOven@lemmy.world 1 points 19 minutes ago

Blood for the blood god.

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago

From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh…

[–] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 14 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

You can just call yourself an atheist. Hell, if you call yourself a pastafarian you are basically an anti-theist.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 11 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Atheist and agnostic are not synonyms.

[–] Kacarott@aussie.zone 1 points 1 hour ago

No, but if you also find all religions audacious and absurd, then wouldn't atheist be a more accurate term anyway?

[–] tutter@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

I mean you go girl more power to ya but it definitely isn't easier to explain pastafarianism than agnosticism to normies. Noone except programmers and other too online people even know it exists (yes i am also a terminally online freak relax peeps, real recognize real)

[–] ooterness@lemmy.world 14 points 19 hours ago

Just show them the graph. Can't argue with hard data.

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 13 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

That's the neat part - you don't have to explain anything. You just assert the truthfulness of your religion and act offended when people point out how ridiculous it is.

[–] tutter@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 19 hours ago

Chad moves. Get theology-mogged you faithless heathencell

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[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 26 points 22 hours ago (11 children)

"I'm not religious"

Can't say I've ever had to explain anything more than that.

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 9 points 19 hours ago

i prefer "i'm not superstitious"

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[–] Klear@quokk.au 96 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I believe it's impossible to prove the existence of two gods.

I'm a diagnostic.

[–] Akasazh@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't drink tea.

I'm an atheaist

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I hate definite articles, I’m an a-the-ist

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[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 9 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

If this is you, consider joining or supporting The Satanic Temple. This is why they exist, and they do more meaningful and practical good than a meme religion.

[–] Bonsoir@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

"We don't like religious symbols in public space, so let's put more of these, yay!"
"Proselytism is bad, so we need to recruit more people to fight it."
"The guy at the top is not a Nazi anymore, so it's fine."

  • statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged.
[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 12 points 18 hours ago

One of the core tenants of Pastafarianism is being too lazy or broke (or both) to actually contribute

[–] einkorn@feddit.org 57 points 1 day ago
[–] NaibofTabr 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Have you felt the touch of His noodly appendage?

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[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago
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