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As per NYT accounting, there is 5000 cannon fodder. The rest are Naval/air/support. Which other than naval staying far enough away, is also cannon fodder.
No better way of getting Trump supporters out of the US. A silver lining for Americans at least

"In the middle east" isn't "on the middle east"... No troops on the gound, just in it.
Americans fight for zionists. Zionist first!
Jesus Christ. Can we just band together and do a coup to overthrow Trump and Vance at this point? This is going to be a needless bloodbath on both sides
The arrival of 2,500 Marines and another 2,500 sailors is keeping the number of American troops in the Mideast region at over 50,000 — roughly 10,000 more than usual
The U.S.-led coalition that invaded Iraq in 2003 was close to 250,000 at the beginning.
Worth noting: Iraq and Iran are very different societies & cultures.
Before colonialism, Iraq was decentralized/tribal for thousands of years before being arbitrarily collected into a single political unit.
Meanwhile Iran was its own empire, with a central head of power for those thousands of years.
90% chance Trump thinks he's at war with Iraq. Most of those troops couldn't even find Iran on a map last month.
Trump is just doing the Neocon wack-a-Muslim in the Middle East. Israel told him where to wack.
So maybe a hundredth of what's needed to invade Iran?
More importantly, arriving 4 weeks into active conflict.
Instead of arriving before the bombs started dropping, when they could have been 100x more effective by their mere presence -- especially if combined with a full-spectrum diplomatic and economic push with the Democracies of the world as allies.
Jesus Christ, Trump and his cabinet are fucking hubristic-stupid
holy shit the casualties are going to be terrible
But American will have the element of surprise! /s
If that figure is true.
...does anyone else hurt when these things happen?..
The families of our troops.
I meant this unironically. I physically hurt.
Inflammatory stress response. Take an advil and do something that makes a small contribution to making things better.
Setting the stage for nuking Iran, because a 'conventional war' can't be won?
Can we please turn back time some thirty years?
They are going to invade Iran, and play up every single death as a way to blame the Dems and every citizen for not supporting Trump. Now its a real war and "oopsie doopsie no can do elections"
They've chosen to be complicit.
...when a corporation is a government, people do not matter...
Never did. I remember an article shortly back about enlistees feeling like pawns for the current regime, comments beneath unanimously ⁉️♟️🤣
...why do human beings hate each other?..
We are descendants of apes and they are ruthless in beef squashing!
I like you, but I must instantly take the opposite view.../s
Just jumping in here before the bags start shipping back to say fuck every single one of these service people. All of them chose to go. All of them chose to serve this lying, fascist government and do the bidding of their corporate patrons. All of them signed up to bomb children. All of them deserve the consequences. Have fun shitting in a bag the rest of your life assholes.
Most of them are probably 18 years old, poorly educated, and raised on Fox News. They're just pawns that have no idea what's going on.
Congress on the other hand, knows exactly what they're doing, and has no moral qualms.
You’re right, but the 18 year olds are probably educated on As~~smeinkampf~~mongold and that is even worse.
It's the troops coming home from Vietnam being spit on and called baby killers again.
And that was the high point for many, as they'd end up addicted and living on the streets shortly thereafter.
I don't know how this ends well, we're staring at the Rubicon. Didn't end well for Caesar either.
I fear that it ends with nukes unless trump is stopped.
I hope the Europeans know how to cook. These boys are chubby. Or maybe that's the plan to make them a little slimmer?
I've been to concerts with well over twice that many people in the crowd
I've seen this one before, try Paramount+ or something
just like the simulations