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[–] JustTheWind@lemmy.world 250 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Viktor fucking POS Orban steps down with more dignity after 16 years than our own home grown dictator wannabe did after 4. What a timeline to be alive in.

[–] Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip 121 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Probably because Orban actually fears backlash from his population. The US doesn't seem to have to worry about that for some strange reason...

[–] aldhissla@piefed.world 15 points 1 week ago

Exactly. If Orbáns past failures had been as over-reported as his posturing, people would be way less surprised about his current democratic loss.

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What country are you talking about when you say your home grown dictator?

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 week ago (3 children)
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[–] fun_times@lemmy.world 153 points 1 week ago (21 children)

On the one hand, his ideology is more or less identical to Orban's (he used to be a Fidesz party member until two tears ago).

On the other hand, he is somewhat EU friendly, supports Ukraine and, most importantly, is the head of a different party. 16 years of Fidesz rule is over. That's not nothing.

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 70 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

He was known in the party as someone who disagreed on many decisions made by Orbán. He also stated it was not easy to leave and/or cut ties due to mafia-like behavior, fear of his or his family's life. His wife was head of Ministry of Justice, which she was kicked out ~~due to also going against Orbán's wishes.~~ pardoning a pedophile, and they divorced soon after.

You have to understand that Orbán is literally an oligarch with tons of money, ties to Russia and the underworld. Magyar only quite recently collected enough support (about 2 years ago I think) to start his own political movement.

[–] elBedrock@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He was known in the party as someone who disagreed on many decisions made by Orbán.

Can you provide a source for this please? I am a Hungarian and never heard of this.

His wife was head of Ministry of Justice, which she was kicked out due to also going against Orbán's wishes.

She was kicked out because she gave an official pardon to a well known pedophile. They divorced after that.

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Can you provide a source for this please? I am a Hungarian and never heard of this.

They mentioned it in a Czech news podcast, so I'd link it to you, although I am not sure how useful that would be.

She was kicked out because she gave an official pardon to a well known pedophile. They divorced after that.

I've heard about the pardon, but not in direct relation to being kicked out because of that. Also sorry for my misinterpretation.

[–] elBedrock@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Oh okay. I am not arguing with you, just wanted some insight about how other countries cover the Orbán disaster. The pardon thing might just be a "find a scapegoat" scenario, in the Fidesz party that was a really popular solution to scandals. We will see how Magyar differs from Orbán, the bar is not high so we have hope things will get better.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'd say it helps that Hungary being in the EU probably limited Orban going full dictator. The EU had been chastising Hungary. Withholding EU funds hurts Hungary quite a bit. This is a reason why the far right hates the EU and looking to dismantle it, with the help of their American friends.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (16 children)

his ideology is more or less identical to Orban’s

Fidesz (Orban):

  • Ideology: Christian Nationalism, Illiberalism, Authoritarianism, National Conservatism, Right-wing Populism
  • Political position: Far-right

Tisza (Magyar):

  • Ideology: Conservative Liberalism, Populism, Pro-Europeanism
  • Political position: Centre to centre-right

I've heard this angle before, but these parties don't seem to be in any way identical.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 17 points 1 week ago

So like a Macron. Not great, but definitely an improvement.

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[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 17 points 1 week ago

In 2026 I take what I can get. And I am damn glad for it!

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[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 108 points 1 week ago (3 children)

We wrote history today. Amazing victory

[–] Bullerfar@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Who would had thought it wouldn't help Orbans case to have JD couchfucker Vance and the Hitler gang beside you. Laughing stuck. It's almost like Orban had proud in making Hungary a puppet state for russia and china. (USA is a puppet of russia that's why they aren't mentioned)

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[–] Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip 24 points 1 week ago

Congratulations! Russia, go home!

[–] oce@jlai.lu 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm happy for your people and for Europe. I hope this movement keeps its promises.

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[–] leave_it_blank@lemmy.world 88 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thank god! I hope that's the last time we see Orban for a very very long time!!

[–] marx@piefed.social 90 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Still a lot of work to do. His cronies still hold a ton of power and control much of the media.

Magyar winning will get the headlines but Tisza getting a supermajority in parliament (which they seem on track to do but I don’t think is official yet) will be the much more important win. That’s where durable reform can be made.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

Exactly, not the time to relax but to work even harder to reverse the damage that was done.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Tisza getting a supermajority

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c2d8zw2d3rkt?post=asset%3Ac1a77fae-f1ed-4199-b821-86c5fce32a01#post

We are now at 96.37% of the votes counted and Tisza is projected to have 138 seats, Fidesz 55 seats and Our Homeland on six. Tisza is in the lead in 93 constituencies, while Fidesz is ahead in 13. Some votes are yet to be counted but a landslide victory is all but certain.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Are there good signs these guys would make such reforms instead of holding onto the power given by changes made by Orban?

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They campaigned on wealth taxes, term limits for every member of parliament, an independent prosecutor's office, joining the EPPO and so on.

They have unlimited power right now, but are dependent on an extremely heterogenous voter base that would implode if they look the wrong way.

Nothing is certain, but it could not look much better right now.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago

All good signs. I hope they follow through.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Y'all think the UK will rejoin the EU next?

And Ukraine, while they're at it.

[–] Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Sure seems like a roundabout way of just... being in the EU.

Are you British, by chance? What's the mood on Brexit these days?

[–] cynar@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The Brexit crowd have gone conspicuously silent about it. Their lack of crowing says a lot about it.

Even before Brexit, the tide had turned, and that's only gotten stronger. Unfortunately, the government had their vote and hammered it through. (The fact there was an EU rule change, on tax transparency, the next day, and would have embarrassed a lot of rich UK toffs had NOTHING to do with the timing)

Unfortunately, the reform party is far too strong, and trying to drag us to the extreme right. Our "left wing" primary party (Labour) is now further right than the conservatives (center right party) traditionally sit.

It's... frustrating.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

That sounds... British. Frustrating, in a frustratingly orderly way.

Outside far-right politics must be making reform look bad in the UK though. Right? Like Hungary, Turkey, whatever's going in Germany...

[–] cynar@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

We are in a media bubble. Basically all our media is owned by a few rich arseholes and they bury a lot of anti right messages.

The BBC used to be remarkably honest and independent from government. The conservatives getting their claws into it was the beginning of the real problems. Even worse, the BBC's impartiality has been so sacrosanct that a lot of older people just believe it.

A mild bit of light. The green party seems to also be making significant advances. Labour have often played the "don't split the left vote" card on them. Now it looks like green is overtaking them in some areas. It just doesn't show up well in a FPTP voting system.

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[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm hoping that belarussians get the courage they need from this and finally revolt against their shit of a ruler.

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[–] Njos2SQEZtPVRhH@piefed.social 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

People tend to underestimate the enormous success of the EU. It can be seen in the economical developments of Poland and the Baltic states. Ukraine saw it and wanted in on it. Russia knowing that if Ukraine too would 'fall' to democracy, Russia itself would inevitably follow. So Navalny needed to be killed, Ukraine invaded, the EU sabotaged. Hungary was their pawn. Not only could Hungary halt EU decision making through veto's, they could also be used in propaganda. How can Putin be all bad if even this EU country sympathizes with him? The EU will now be very inclined to make Hungary as succesfull as they can. It's too early to celebrate, the Hungarian government will still be filled with lots of Fidesz bureaucrats. And the new government may still be inclined to use its ties with Russia. But the past decades have proven that the cheap Russian oil can't compensate for the corruption that comes along. Magyars anti-corruption stance is pretty much saying: we want to model our country towards the EU examples, not Russia. Lets hope Magyar succeeds and other countries follow. Lets hope that eventually Belarus and Russia will rejoin the European family. The world has much to win here. The US not understanding why they need to support Ukraine tells us they don't care much for democracy anymore. It's understandable that if your government fails to supply you with decent living conditions, you won't be inclined to support helping out other countries on the path towards decent government. But both can be done at the same time: focus on sorting out your own government, while simultaneously supporting other countries on the same path. The EU has been the driving force behind multilateralism. If we want a rules-based order, if we want to save the planet, if we want a better future, we want a strong EU leading the way. We want to support nations in their striving for democracy.

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Now Hungary has the challenge of rebuilding their nation after 16 years of MAGA-style destruction.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago

People should read a little about Magyar. He's a little Trumpy himself.

[–] tirateimas@lemmy.pt 11 points 1 week ago

Great, lets see what changes now. It would be good to have Hungary "back" in the European Union. But it is too soon to tell.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So this means EU's aud to Ukraine is unblocked, unless the lowlife fascists in Czechia or Slovakia decide to take Hungary's place in being obstructive.

[–] Patrikvo@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They better don't. Otherwise we'll send JD on a visit.

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[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)
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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago

First things, first: Congratulations to all Hungarians!

As for the rest of Europe, does this mean the other Russian agent, Fico, won't have anybody covering his back in the EU anymore?

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