Is this Onion? Why shouldn’t pope talk about theology? I thought it is like his area of expertise?
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vance would know, he reaped the last pope.
I don't know about this Pope guy, but I think I know a thing or two about the word of God.
I wasn't aware the Pope was a law enforcement official, or a foreign policy official. Gosh, where would we be without these little gems Trump keeps dropping?
Think of all the leaders who told the Pope to fuck off in history. Nothing but great successes. Surely we're winning.
But I think one of the issues here is that if you’re going to opine on matters of theology, you’ve got to be careful. You’ve got to make sure it’s anchored in the truth
Oh dear, somebody has a lot of catching up to do. Start with Council of Nicea and go from there.
FUN FACT: Council of Nicea was formed to settle the age old debate of "should priests cut off their balls or not? On the one hand, Jesus said to do so... on the other hand, my balls."
The other part was to make it a patriarchal church instead of a matriarchal one. The Virgin Mary used to be the holy figure of Christianity, but men didn't like that.
Correction, used to be one of the holy figureS, there were other sects with their own favorites (like John the Baptist and many others).
They also tossed a lot of "in between" and after testimonies (Gospel of Thomas et al I think) and more.
BUT, the pressing issue was balls.
Coincidentally, the word "testimony" is derived from the old custom that referred to swearing an oath on your balls (testicles).
Lots of balls. balls balls balls
That obsession survives to this day
I think time and experience has proved Jesus right - priests should definitely cut off their bollocks.
For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it. ~Matthew 19:12
Not just priests! He that is able to receive it, let him receive it. Castrati and eunochs only recently fell out of favor in the past century
Christians are surprisingly ignorant of their own history, it's kinda funny
Wow, there really is a passage for everything! New Testament too. Sounds like Christians should be getting busy with the pruning shears. Jesus actually recommends this as a cure for horniness. TBF I guess it would be an effective one.
“Was God on the side of the Americans who liberated France from the Nazis? [...] I certainly think the answer is yes."
So, if you assume God did not like fascists in the 1940s - what makes you think he has changed his mind to now support you and your ilk, couch boy? That's a mighty big plank to pull from that eye of yours.
They don't think they're fascists, they think they're the good guys
Strongly disagree. Previous administrations, yes. Bush, certainly. But not this one. For that, corruption and self-enrichment are too rampant and poorly camouflaged (if at all), disdain for democratic institutions too blatant, preparations for an authoritarian power grab too brazenly obvious. These guys know who they are and who they serve, and they don't even feel the need to hide it any more. The mask is off.
Every member of this administration, past, present, and future, need to be held accountable when this is over. If we don't do that, then the Constitution, our laws, will continue to erode when the next batch of grifters show up to push the envelope to see how far they can bend and break the rules.
Was God on the side of the Americans who liberated France from the Nazis? Was God on the side of the Americans who liberated Holocaust camps and liberated those, those innocent people, you know, those who had survived the Holocaust?
What a silly question. It's silly because it's based on the idea that God is a being who would pick sides in the first place. It is generally commonly thought by believers that we are all God's children. When your children get in a fight do you pick sides and cheer for one of them to kick the other's ass? I would hope not. I would hope that, as a parent, you would step in and try and stop the fight.
Assuming there is a God, I would hope he/she/it would just be terribly disappointed in all the children involved for not finding a way to settle their differences peacefully.
It’s silly because it’s based on the idea that God is a being who would pick sides in the first place.
If you read the Bible, you'll find that God picked sides immediately, and has never stopped. He even has a "Chosen People", you can't possibly pick sides any further.
We may all be God's children, but remember, God is perfectly fine with murdering billions of His children, and not only that, He tortures them with Hell forever after. He can't even let them die in peace.
Yes, it is certainly silly, which makes it all the more horrifying
I feel like there's a really great Bob Dylan song that deals with this very topic... Maybe JD Vance should listen to it?
I'll stand over your grave till I'm sure that your dead!
JD bout to start MAGA Catholicism and install himself as the pope.
Nah, Vance is going to jump over to evangelicalism. It's more expedient; the white supremacists have always been anti-Catholicism and this will only serve his larger purposes. Also, evangelicals are more lenient on divorce (unless Erica has already moved on since she dropped out of that recent TPUSA event that drew like eleven people the other day)
A antipope you say? That hasn't happened in a long time.
A trailer park Avignon, lol.
(nothing against trailer parks . . . that aren't hosting their own dollar store pope)
They're really going with 'lets pick a moral fight with the Pope'.
... I actually have trouble comprehending this, because it is so obviously a politically stupid thing to do.
JD is apparently considerably more lost in the sauce than I thought, has od'd on his own fart sniffing.
It really is wild how immesenly hubristic this all is, but it does serve as a very useful illustration to the rest of the world to drive home the idea that American Christians (TM) quite literally think they speak with the authority of God himself, which is broadly regarded as insane heresy by most other Christians in most of the world.
They're idiot fascists to the core, and its like 30% of the country that is this way.
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JD’s political career is over after this regime
What funny to watch (I mean, gallows humor funny) is that as Trump gets weaker, the various temptations for Crown Prince Couchfucker to coup him just grow exponentially.
I like to imagine Trump and Vance sitting across from each other, silently weighing each other up, Trump telling himself shit like "JD owes me everything, he wouldn't," and Vance just looking back across at Trump like Trump's a couch.
Take him into a backroom with promises of a soft couch.
Then just fucking shoot him in the head. Lights out. No fanfare. Just gone.
He's banking on being POTUS for the back half of Trump's term. Trump could keel over any day, but if he's still alive by New Year's we'll almost certainly see Vance try to remove him with the 25th. Once he's in power, he just needs to be less batshit than Trump for two years and he'll be in a good position to win an election.
No, it's not. He'll flourish.
Watch and see!
We can't even get rid of Ted Cruz. They stay in office until they are half-dead (see Biden, Mitch, etc.)
Quite a Protestant think to say, for a supposed Catholic.
MAGA is JD’s religion now.
JD's religion is and anyways has been whatever is most politically expedient at the moment. Dude is a snake in the grass when no actual morals or convictions.
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is that a threat?
RIP Francis
Excuse me, but did Juliette Dianne Vance just challenge the Pope on theology?
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My take on this is that the Night of the Long Knives has clearly started in Trump's inner circle and Vance (sent to no-win scenarios in Hungary and Pakistan while Trump and Rubio were bro-bonding without him) is starting to feel on thin ice.
So he's trying to demonstrate how far backwards he can bend over to justify anything Trump decides to crap on Truth Social.
Are they trying to make an American Orthodox Church or something like that?
The Pentagon already threatened it mafia-style.
“In January, behind closed doors at the Pentagon, Under Secretary of War for Policy Elbridge Colby summoned Cardinal Christophe Pierre — Pope Leo XIV’s then-ambassador to the United States — and delivered a lecture,” said Hale.
“America has the military power to do whatever it wants in the world,” Colby and his associates informed the cardinal. “The Catholic Church had better take its side.”
As the room temperature grew, Hale said he confirmed that one U.S. official “reached for a fourteenth-century weapon and invoked the Avignon Papacy, the period when the French Crown used military force to bend the bishop of Rome to its will.”
During the period in question, there were two Popes. One in the Vatican, and one in Avignon. I'm fairly certain that if the Vatican doesn't bend to Trump's will, there will soon be a Church of America with it's own Pope.
Can you imagine how trashy an American pope will be?
Complete with supply side Jesus
If a core Catholic belief is the pope is infallible, especially in the domain of theology & religion, then why is Vance saying any of this? Sure seems like his “Catholicism” is name alone or perhaps his faith is more Protestant than he wants to admit. Or, he has values above his faith, and for a Catholic, that seems worse.
Whatever, Jan.
Edit: I’m ex-Catholic. I don’t need a theology lesson about the specifics. What the Pope is expressing here is within the domain of church doctrine.
Stop trying to defend fascists with pedantic details.
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