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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 229 points 1 month ago (3 children)

You mean, just like his pivot to VR?

[–] oh_@lemmy.world 163 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Exactly. Zuck stole the original idea to Facebook. Then bought a ton of companies after that for innovation. He has no good ideas of his own, when he does think of stuff, they are wild big company pivots that fail.

[–] rozodru@piefed.world 104 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Zuck has never had an original idea in his head, ever. His initial claim to fame, prior to FB, at least on college campus' was making a "hot or not" clone utilizing photos from various Harvard facebooks. Every idea since then has been someone elses or he's tried to take the Apple approach of "let someone else do it first, then we improve on it" except he has never been able to nail down the second part. The only reason FB became successful was the initial exclusivity and it filled the gap of a post 20-something myspace/ICQ/AOL IM world.

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[–] audaxdreik@pawb.social 57 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I absolutely agree with you but I think that take is a bit short-sighted and undercuts just how evil this stuff is.

Tom Nicholas did a Youtube video on the metaverse a while back (oh my god it was 4 years ago, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM00M-dRMBk) and it's been stuck in my head ever since. The pivot towards VR was an attempt to get even deeper ahold of our attention and what better way to do that than with goggles that are constantly in front of our eyes? The same with AI as it attempts to insert itself as a substrate layer of all technologies, and again with the smart glasses.

It's easy to dismiss these efforts as hilariously misguided but they're not. They're extremely calculated and he only needs it to pay off once to make everything worth it, and I think there are others that realize this as well. We just gotta keep praying that these efforts burn him out before they strike it big. I'm neither a praying nor gambling man, but praying is all we got right now to stand in his way and I wouldn't put money on the certainty of Facebook's failures ...

[–] protist@retrofed.com 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It’s easy to dismiss these efforts as hilariously misguided but they’re not. They’re extremely calculated and he only needs it to pay off once to make everything worth it

Fortunately there seems to be a limit as far as what people are willing to tolerate. While I agree these moves are extremely calculated, they're being calculated by people who are almost completely disconnected from reality and whose egos cloud their judgment at every turn

[–] Dookieman12@piefed.social 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Precisely. I make calculated decisions all the time. But I suck at math. Even "highly calculated" decisions can be very stupid. In fact, some levels of stupidity are only possible with some level of higher education.

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[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 84 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

His is such a bad company but so poorly run by its dictator. He can't be ousted as he holds majority shares. It'd be funny as hell if it wasn't facilitating the progression of the end of our world. Dumping billions that could be used to feed and support people in need. Instead we got the metaverse and datacenters on every corner.

[–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Right? Imagine if all of the money spent "building out" the metaverse had been invested in improving infrastructure in real life...

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[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 73 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Has he picked a single winner since he stole the idea for facebook?

[–] Maldaya@sh.itjust.works 44 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Probably only when he bought out Instagram and Whatsapp, that's all I can think of

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 45 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Those were already popular before he bought them, and then he made them worse.

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 24 points 1 month ago

...but no less popular

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[–] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He bought 100 lottery tickets through acquisition (probably more) and 2 of them hit.

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[–] bad1080@piefed.social 66 points 1 month ago (3 children)

amazing how many missteps you can make as a ceo these days without consequences...

[–] Tja@programming.dev 27 points 1 month ago

It's what happens when you own a controlling share of the company. You can freely run it into the ground.

[–] matlag@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 month ago

Tells you a lot about success and merit. He has absolutely no fucking clue what's going to be successful and what won't. He was just super lucky with Facebook.

The reason he's a billionaire is because the system is totally fucked up. He's a bug, not a feature.

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[–] protist@retrofed.com 66 points 1 month ago (5 children)

This video on how much of the debt these companies hold is hidden from their balance sheets is chilling. According to this, Meta "officially" owes $151B, but in reality has debt obligations closer to $572B.

That's over 40% of Meta's entire market capitalization, and they're rapidly adding to that debt. Meta's existing properties are losing users, and there's just no fucking way they'll be able to pay back this debt in the long term, because they have zero hope of deriving income from all this data center investment. At some point, BlackRock and the other private equity firms Meta owes money to are going to come looking for blood

[–] CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I guess they’re waiting for Peter Thiel to save them, again, when he turns the data centers into data lakes for palantir and we go full surveillance state. I do believe there is some end game these tech billionaires believe is on the horizon that we aren’t really privy to, it’s just a matter of them making it come to fruition before reality crashes down on their heads. Bankrupting them faster through boycotts is a good way the average person can help speed up reality and slow down their progress.

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[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 55 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Never interrupt your enemy while he's making a mistake.

Keep it up, Mark. You're doing great.

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[–] late_pessimistic@slrpnk.net 46 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Becoming a billionaire really does seem to get to people's heads, the younger the billionaire the worse.

Zuck is being completely reckless, burning through hundreds of billions of dollars hopping on every futuristic idea, and doesn't listen to anyone's fair criticism anymore.

He probably even thinks he is some great visionary and everyone else is holding him back, and that's why they work for him, not the opposite.

In a sane socioeconomic system we wouldn't people get this rich and powerful for their own good, especially young people.

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[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 43 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Marky Zuckerberg may run Meta into the ground however the fucker will still be rich.

[–] cmbabul@slrpnk.net 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Which does piss me off, BUT the world would be better if we took Meta, Reddit, Twitter, and all the other social media giants and gave them the Ole Yeller treatment

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[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 40 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

Outside of Facebook what has he been responsible for that didn't blow up in his face? The only other things Meta has that aren't thus far miserable failures are Instagram and Whatsapp, both of which they bought.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago

Reminder that he stole Facebook

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 month ago (3 children)

And Google built a search engine. Everything else they've tried to build has failed, other than maybe Gmail which was just a Yahoo Mail / Hotmail clone. Everything else that has been successful has been an acquisition: Maps (Keyhole), YouTube, Android, Google Photos (Picasa), Doubleclick...

We really need robust antitrust. How many of these acquisitions would be thriving companies in their own right, competing with the big tech giants if the tech giants hadn't been able to absorb them.

Google+ is an example of what happens when companies have to compete instead of acquiring other companies. Google poured billions into it and it flopped completely.

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[–] rozodru@piefed.world 39 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I recently saw a video of Zuckerberg being interviewed by Theo Von and I honestly thought it was AI slop at first. The way he sits, talks, even moves his head it's like he's constantly under interrogation. It's like some PR manager spent a couple days with him teaching him how to act and the dude took it way too literally.

[–] NekoKoneko@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Dude doesn't need a PR manager. He needs a blue fairy.

[–] errer@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

He needs to take a deep sea submarine trip, that’s what he needs

[–] MushuChupacabra@piefed.world 35 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Destroying civilization, and destroying shareholder value.

What is his actual function?

[–] lemmyng@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

To be one of many examples of how a human can have net negative value?

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[–] artyom@piefed.social 31 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Well at least he has that thing he named the company after to fall back on, right?

[–] deacon@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There’s always money in the…poorly rendered virtual banana stand in a digital wasteland

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[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago (4 children)

If you are still actively using Facebook you are either over 40 or live in a rural area of the country. As an example, I live in a small rural town of less than 4000 people everybody still uses Facebook and the amount of AI that they are liking sharing commenting on is absurd.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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[–] Exatron@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago

Couldn't have happened to a more deserving bot.

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 22 points 1 month ago

And yet again, Zuck walks away from a mountain of burning money without a scratch on him. 😡

[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Steals an idea to get rich. Buys companies to produce ideas for him but still fails somehow. Gets called innovative genius because he has lots of money? I guess all he is that he was opportunistic and was able to realize a good idea (perhaps by chance) a long time ago and stole it. Now he is constantly failing on choosing good ideas but because he is stinking rich he is somehow able to keep himself afloat.

[–] motruck@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Luck is a key part of success. Timing being one of the luckiest random factors.

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[–] hypno@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I hope that the whole facebook downfall and the inevitable enshitification of other facebook servies like instagram und whatsapp only accelerates the adoption of better alternatives, we'll see if people are actually willing to leave whatsapp if its gotten bad enough

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[–] espentan@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

I'm wishing for more murderous things to blow up in his face.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (3 children)

He probably should have stuck with the Metaverse, I'm sure it would have worked eventually. I mean maybe, who knows...

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[–] Cellari@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

For those that want to read about the fault of human psyche:

https://technophilosoph.com/en/2024/06/09/why-we-trust-ai-despite-the-gell-mann-amnesia-effect/

The popular author Michael Crichton named this effect after his physicist friend Murray Gell-Mann, who had noticed how newspaper readers, for example, after studying an erroneous article on a subject in which they themselves are very knowledgeable, just shake their heads and find the reporting on it distorted, erroneous and lacking in understanding. However, if they then turn the page and read an article on another topic in which they themselves have little knowledge, they trust the information in this article almost without reservation.

[–] OldChicoAle@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Such a punchable face. He and his wife are evil people. Stains on humanity.

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[–] dil@piefed.zip 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They are automatically putting ppls pictures in image to video ai without permission and advertising it back to them

[–] a1studmuffin@aussie.zone 13 points 1 month ago

For real? That is some dystopian Minority Report level advertising right there.

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 12 points 1 month ago

Gods I wish this was literal.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 11 points 1 month ago

At least he didn't have to spend all that money on higher salaries. How you boys liking the rocket game? I'm thinking about blowing a few dozen billion on that, just as a hobby. Not trying to make money off it.

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