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Tbf, Martin didnt have anything to do with the ending of the show sucking.

Now, the fact that he's doing this instead of finishing the books, that sucks ass.

there's a 2010 Chinese adaptation of three kingdoms link with english subs that's really good. The acting and intrigue is on par with early game of thrones but it's funded by a culture endowment so there's way less uncomfortable sex stuff and they don't phone in the end

Game of Thrones ended before its source material with some non-sequitur statement about the nature of stories. Now all we need is a Kingkiller Chronicles adaptation that gets really popular and ends with some non-sequitur political killings of main characters.

The JJ Abrams gambit, refined: you don't have to provide disappointing endings to hype waves if you never write the ending

The Expanse was written by a pair of authors under a single pen name

Are there any books that are written by like... Teams of people?

It's going to be a thing very soon that you essentially have teams of plot outliners, character developers, AI prompt engineers, and editors quickly drafting novels together. You're going to have the hypercapitalist speed-focused methods of software development (Agile, Scrum, etc.) leaking into creative fields in order to make them more profitable and have faster turnaround times.

It's a natural consequence of cinema, video games, etc. that they will require teams of people most of the time because of the sheer volume of disciplines involved. Books only require one most of the time, just like painting, sculpture, songwriting, etc.

I know that Wheel of Time was handed over by Robert Jordan to Brandon Sanderson, because he was dying. It can be very jarring to suddenly see a change in writing style.

Maybe that's how historians of literature feel when they detect forgeries or misattributions.

I think maybe it would make more sense to have authors write individual stories and contribute to a shared setting. Not like spin-offs and fandoms, but like open source contribution I guess.

warrior cats, which serves your point because it sucks

Are there any books that are written by like... Teams of people?

any 39 clues enjoyers in the chat

Brandon Sanderson does the primary writing work, but he does have a small team under him to develop it.

There really are very few examples of good "collaborative" books out there. And even in something like Good Omens, I found it pretty easy to tell which were the Terry Pratchett sections and which were the Neil Gaiman ones. I guess there is simply no substitution for one hyperfixated recluse fugueing paragraphs onto paper. (I hope there is no substituting it for my sake at least)

The "pantsing" method worked great for the first few books, but not knowing how he was going to resolve things created some issues later on, and is probably a big part of why the series is permanently paused.

I remember in his blog before ADwD came out, he was very open about how not knowing how he would resolve the Meereenese plotline caused big delays, and it ended up being a pretty mediocre plotline in the end too.

My only major problem with GoT is that Daenarys should have conquered Westeros and exterminated all of the feudal lords.

That would involve society improving somewhat and that can't ever be shown to happen because

GRRM specifically does have an obligation. Like the whole "Writers aren't your bitches. They don't owe you anything" defense was cooked up for him, and he's the case where it doesn't apply. Because he has been outright promising this, and he does it routinely, and he uses the idea of finishing his work as a way to garner interest in other projects.

It hurts. Spiritually and physically.