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[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 104 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Maybe the kids are gonna be alright, after all.

[–] tangeli@piefed.social 66 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

AI is just one of several serious existential threats the kids will have to deal with. They're far from alright.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The Epstein class is their biggest threat by far. AI and what they do on private islands are just two of many reasons to get rid of billionaires.

[–] tangeli@piefed.social 10 points 3 weeks ago

I agree. I really don't understand why society tolerates, let alone promotes and idolizes, billionaires, while median net worth remains below $200,000, and probably much lower in most of the rest of the world. I don't think everyone should be forced to be exactly equal but the current disparity between median and Elon is more than 6 orders of magnitude, depending on the day of the week, and even to your average barely a billionaire it is more than 3 orders of magnitude. It's excessive, and looking at how society is going, fairly clearly unhealthy for everyone involved.

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[–] Zarobi@aussie.zone 10 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Anecdotally, all our young family members don't trust A.I. at all.

Once, I asked it a question as a joke, (I think it was about "Labubu"s or something I'm out of touch about); they told me it sounds like fake news 😂. I asked the tool if we could trust it, and it said something like "no, don't trust me", which was hilarious.

I think kids these days have a good bullshit detector, by necessity.

[–] SacredHeartAttack@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

Yesterday I heard an 11yr old - who I’ve witnessed watching AI brain rot content recently - decry that some channel he was shown was “AI slop”, and was incredulous about being shown it. Now I know kids can change their mind very quickly and will just parrot what they hear and think is cool, but it felt good to hear a young kid say this to another, and essentially be mad about it.

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[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 78 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm so blackpilled on the average person. These stats mean nothing because the average person not trusting a tech company does absolutely nothing to push them away from it. 80% distrust AI but 50% use it and the stat is growing.

[–] RedstoneValley@sh.itjust.works 19 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Indeed. The average person seems to need instagram, whatsapp and xitter to fill their meaningless little isolated lives with distractions to feel... something. However on a more positive note, once people get suspicious about AI slop they tend to notice the slop patterns more easily, which is a good development. It's something that can't be unseen.

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[–] isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone 59 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

I don't just think AI should be regulated, I think everyone at the hyperscaler companies should be criminally indicted. Every employee at OpenAI and Anthropic working on AI development should be indicted on 8 million counts of child endangerment.

The relevant statute is California 273a.

It is a crime in the state of California to allow a child to be placed in a position where great harm could come to them. For example, people have been indicted under this statute because they had drugs in the same house as young children. Even if no children are actually hurt, simply putting them in a situation where harm is likely is the crime.

It would normally be quite difficult to prove that the actions of OpenAI and others are endangering children. But the very words of these companies would be the first exhibit of the prosecution. They've openly confessed to their crimes! These very same companies and their leaders have repeatedly said that they're building machines that they themselves believe have a reasonable chance of destroying humanity. And the children of California are a subset of humanity.

Whether their claims are realistic or not, I cannot say. But I simply cannot believe that it is legal to build a machine that you yourself believe could destroy the world. We're so glazed over by the novelty of AI that we forget to treat it like any other threat. In most places it is a crime to perform some action that you believe has a realistic chance of hurting people, even if you have no intention or desire to hurt people.

Well, according to OpenAI, the machines they are building represent a very real risk to the life and safety of every child in the State of California. I see no reason that they shouldn't be charged with millions of counts of child endangerment. According to their own words, they are literally putting the lives of children at risk. That is a crime. That is not legal. And we should stop pretending it is.

[–] Lojcs@piefed.social 19 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

If this argument worked fossil fuel companies wouldn't exist

[–] isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There's a big difference between, "I know my product will statistically increase the chance of early death across the population" and "I believe there is a very real chance my product will kill everyone."

All sorts of things increase risk. But child endangerment and similar laws are meant for very immediate and direct threats. OpenAI is building machines that they themselves believe could kill everyone. I see that as very similar to the idea of having fentanyl in the same house as young children. The fentanyl isn't a danger because it will increase the chance of the kids getting lung cancer in their sixties. The fentanyl is a danger because one dose of it could kill a kid instantly. The law addresses immediate threats, not statistical increases in mortality observable across the population.

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[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 8 points 3 weeks ago

anyone can inform the authorities, and should they continue to ignore then that is clear next goal of the campaign -> removal of corrupt officials that dont care about the law.

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[–] tigermountain@lemmy.world 41 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

As an old person I can also say that old people don't trust AI, or the leaders of those companies, or the current administration...

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

It's almost like it doesn't matter what plebs think and we've known this for a long time.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 10 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

Old people were the biggest voter block FOR the current (US) administration. You might not like it, but "old people" certainly have some other opinions.

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[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

All my members hate fucking AI and majority of them are over 60. Hell one had me take his payment because he flat out wasn't going let a clanker take it. Dont trust the automated system rather talk to a human.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

My dad died last fall and when I called the funeral home to arrange for his body to be picked up, their answering service was fucking AI. However angry you think that might make you feel, it's worse than that.

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[–] bluesheep@sh.itjust.works 39 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

You shouldn't trust billionaires at all. Even the "good ones". You don't get a billion net worth without exploiting people

[–] Varesti@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hungary in 1946.

Zimbabwe in 2008.

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[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 36 points 2 weeks ago (24 children)

I don’t trust anyone who is impressed by LLMs enough to consider them to be in any way adjacent to intelligence.

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 10 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

You are absolutely right! Should I create a list of people who you should not trust?

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[–] Solrac@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Nah, why would anyone love AI when we can just--

Let's all love Lain!

[–] kablez@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Present day, present time... Hahaha

[–] Solrac@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

And these AI companies don't seem to understand...

.... ((They were never honest, can't make a lyric)

And all those fears they hold so dear

Will turn to reality in their stocks

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[–] Eryn6844@piefed.blahaj.zone 18 points 3 weeks ago

there you go! keep using that noggin!

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean, the marketing people should have been able to tell management that too.

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 18 points 2 weeks ago

Never underestimate me how out of touch business management can be.

There's a saying- corporate consultants are people who charge millions to tell you what your employees and customers have been trying to tell you for free.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

Most everything I do is local but I don’t trust AI anymore than I trust any other tool. If it gives code that works or instructions to do what I need great. Even when it’s wrong I’m learning something new.

I totally agree about the billionaires. I absolutely don’t trust these dickheads running the shit show… Sam Altman, Jensen Huang, Elon Musk, Dario Amodei, Sundar Pichai, Satya Nadella, Mark Zuckerberg, Larry Ellison… Fuck everyone of these guys. Everyone of them is a rich asshole trying to scheme as much as they can out of the system. I think their end goal is to put people out of work so they can automate as much as possible so they don’t rely on anything else. If AGI or superintelligence arrives within the decade, whoever controls it controls the economy that follows. It will be such a game changer nobody is even close to prepared for it.

Go read “I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream” by Harlan Ellison, Hyperion by Dan Simmons, Colossus by D.F. Jones, or maybe Accelerando by Charles Stross. None of these end well.

[–] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

"Young people increasingly don't appear to be incredibly dumb, survey finds."

[–] DeepRoots@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 12 points 2 weeks ago

billionaires tell people to love the thing they are trying to get them hooked on so that they can run a rampant monopoly and make some more billions.

If you remove yourself from the equation maybe there is some chance. So if you really love AI, perhaps fuck off.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I could imagine they increasingly don't trust politicians either.
It's almost as if there is a pattern there isn't it?
Maybe we are being filled with more bullshit all around than we have ever been!

[–] joe@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The same poll showed:

According to the CNBC Generation Lab poll, which received responses from 1,088 people earlier this month, 46% of Americans between the ages of 18 and 34 now hold either a “favorable” or a “very favorable” view of democratic socialism. An additional 23% held “somewhat unfavorable” or “very unfavorable” opinions, according to the poll, which had a margin of error of 2.97 percentage points.

and

Almost half of respondents, 45%, said they believe AI will have a negative impact on their careers, while 10% believe it will help them with their careers. An additional 40% said they believe “the federal government” must set rules for AI, while 36% said they believe “an independent expert body” should set the rules of the game. Just 8% said they think AI “shouldn’t be regulated.” A majority, 60%, believe data center construction “must be slowed,” while 15% favor “speeding it up.”

While they may or may not distrust current politicians, it does not appear that they're significantly distrustful of politicians in general.

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[–] kepix@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

my experience, that all my collegues who are aroubd 28-35, use a shitload of ai. younger generation is now using it instead of google search.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's because they fucked the google search so that ai is the only thing that gives you what you're looking for. Eventually. After you've argued with it.

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[–] Rolive@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

If AI gave correct answers 95% of the time instead of <50%, didn't cause massive inflation in computer parts and doesn't completely fuck the environment I'd be somewhat in favor of it.

[–] lmuel@sopuli.xyz 25 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"If my grandmother had wheels she would've been a bike"

[–] Rolive@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 3 weeks ago

Yep, the reality is different so to hell with AI.

[–] stretch2m 11 points 3 weeks ago

It would still be dogshit for how slop has infused the human creative domain, and for how it contributes to brain rot. In fact, being more correct would probably make both of those things worse.

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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 weeks ago

Good. Young people are hip to what's going on and that is uplifting.

[–] son_of_darkness@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

My previous work enforced the use of AI for everything besides wipping your own butt. I was a senior dev and adamantly refused to use it for ethical reasons.

Not once have I touched it, not once I felt I needed it. I said as much whenever I had meetings with eng. managers and I could provably argue that I was doing very fine without it, I was in fact as much or more productive than my AI addled colleagues and furthermore I found many severe bugs in their PRs. I saw the code quality and stability of my project take a deep plunge because of Claude. They said it was company policy to use.. but because it was not on my contract and I was not falling behind on any of my responsibilities I answered I would rather be fired than to use AI. I never was. I kept at this for a year, and finally changed to somewhere where my judgement on when and where to use these things is more important than KPIs.

It's not that I didn't see a use case for AI - I saw very minor use cases for dashboards and quick insight into logs - but as much as I can I don't allow managers and KPIs to have this much control over how I work and which tools I use.

[–] BigBoyShuanzee@aussie.zone 6 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

I've been in IT since 2007 I've been with computers since 1994 with a second hand MS DOS.

AI is 100 very good for scientists and people in the medical industry (I don't know why, but I know they've all told me it's good for them). Outside of the above.. Everything else about AI is pointless.. It's just googling things slightly faster than I can google things.

[–] Hathaway@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Interestingly, in the medical field, I have seen a few headlines, but, I was talking to a guy who works for Mayo Clinic. His job is literally trying to quantify the effects AI is having with the doctors, and talking with him I said the same thing “at least it’s good for the medical field” and he replied with “who told you that? I would actually love to speak with them.” So, I’m not sure how effective it is in the medical field either.

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[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

No longer surprised, as the Butlerian Jihad should ever expand.

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