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[–] Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online 140 points 1 week ago (7 children)

“Having a family member in the military is not a free pass to violate our nation’s laws,” the DHS said.

I hope more people realize this and understand that by "serving" the state you are also protecting ICE.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 48 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What a great way to make your trained killers remember their oath to the Constitution to protect against its enemies, both foreign and domestic.

[–] Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Is the implication that ICE and DHS is a domestic enemy? How does that square with the rest of the oath

I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 25 points 1 week ago (11 children)

If those orders are illegal you have a sworn duty to disobey them.

I understand there will be a lengthy court martial and perhaps many will not win. But if we ever get to the point of holding people accountable for all that is going on (and they better hope it’s us and not some outside forces), they will be held as co-conspirators.

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[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

...meaning you're not supposed to obey unlawful orders, which includes anything that violates the US Constitution or the Geneva Convention...

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[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It squares because the Constitution is supposed to be the supreme law of the land. The people currently occupying these offices come and go.

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[–] Tm12@lemmy.ca 86 points 1 week ago (1 children)

“This is heartbreaking for me. I don’t know how I can mentally continue working 12+ hour days ‌knowing that my dad is somewhere, possibly being treated like a criminal.”

My dude, they are already treating him like a criminal.

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

They're treating the troops as expendable slaves, so what else is shocking.

[–] soratoyuki@piefed.zip 54 points 1 week ago

Signing up to kill and die for a country that actively, openly hates you was certainly a choice.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (21 children)

awww. STOP VOLUNTEERING FOR THE MILITARY.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I'm poor and desperate. Whose hiring? System is working as intended.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The purpose of a system is what it does.

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[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Obama's immigration policy, especially in his second term, prioritized the deportation of people with criminal records. Under Trump, only 29% of deported people had a criminal conviction. Most had no criminal record.

edit = cut and pasted from 'factually' site.

And Trump is paying billions more for ICE.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

29%

No way it's that high. Unless something has drastically changed over the past six months, I think you're off by an order of magnitude. Last I looked it was closer to 2.9%

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 8 points 1 week ago

You are probably right. I used one source. Edited.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 6 points 1 week ago

It's 29% if you take into account the administration lying about who's a criminal.

(This is not a real statistic)

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[–] blattrules@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is how you radicalize soldiers

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

thats also why dictators/fascist keep thier military weak and incompetent. not paying them enough, barely sustaining them, defunding them.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

But also wanting to ~~invade neighbors~~ conduct special military operations, for some reason, with that same military. O.o

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[–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 week ago

Kinda reminds me of WWII when we had Japanese American soldiers and likely their families in camps with all of their assets seized.

[–] SailorFuzz@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Just when you think America is scraping rock bottom ethics/morality/humanity, they surprise you by going even lower.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The families of people who serve in the military should not be treated better than any other American family is, so this is not a new low, it's just the same low as usual.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They should if you don't want the people you personally trained to be killers to turn on you.

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[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Pissing off military service members is a bold move.

[–] lemmyng@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Right?! If this were any other country, we would've had multiple military coups forcefully removing the orange shitstain from office.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If they had a strong will they wouldn’t have joined an imperial army to begin with. I don’t think there’s much to worry about.

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[–] AgentSeven@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I will not give a fuck about these stories until I can reliably feel like they a) didn't vote for this and b) wouldn't vote for this yet again.

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The consequences of my actions are suddenly facing me, and now I don't wish for it to happen to me or my family anymore. But I still wish for it to happen to everybody else, so I'm still gonna vote for it. GoFundMe when?

[–] Tiral@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Right? Yeah .. 51%ish people voted for him, and if you didn't vote at all, then you helped cause it. Not that I think Kamala wasn't a lying piece of shit, but I'd rather have 4 years of stagnation than 4 years of what we're getting.

TBH I think the Democrats have it in the bag next election if they provide someone remotely competent. The die hard Trumpies will always vote right, but I think a lot of people were on the fence will go left as a knee jerk reaction.

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[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Come on Yankee soldiers, mutiny!

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 7 points 1 week ago

Yeah I mean...imagine...you'd have an aircraft carrier.

Everybody listens to an aircraft carrier.

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[–] Alexfire@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Owners get richer,

The more people they put in,

Concentration camps

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Any reason you responded in haiku?

[–] Typotyper@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The real question is once you recognized the format why didn't you follow suit

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You son of a bitch

That would have been a good move

What was I thinking?

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[–] Redditisbollocks@feddit.uk 4 points 1 week ago

And what did they expect?

This is the current state of the US.

Be afraid.

[–] Smaile@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I'm suprised the military hasn't turned on him, but I suspect they will once he crys fowl on election day once they have true justification.

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

Idk, I don't have much faith left in Americans. I feel like we've been through "surely they'll do something once " too many times now

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