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I’m genuinely curious because as a casual observer, every time I watch it, there’s something else that doesn’t make sense. Who here has coached moderately high level football and can explain what was going on there?

Hutchinson is one of the top edge rushers in the league but you leave your rookie RT on him with zero help in a clear passing scenario so the rush can just go with zero concern of a run play.

The TE is split out a little bit on the left side, ie the side opposite of Hutchinson and then makes zero contact with the DE before running a half hearted shallow out route.

The RB is to Fields left and clearly isn’t assigned any pass protection responsibilities before running another useless route into to flat.

Then you have Fields take a 7 step drop and, clearly all of his initial reads are on the left side of the field so he doesn’t even see Hutchinson coming.

There were like 26 seconds left in the game. Why not put the TE or the RB, or crazy…both of them on the same side as Hutchinson? Or if the RB are going to run useless routes, put another WR in the game to run something vertical? Or roll the pocket away from one of the best edge rushers in the game with one of the most mobile QBs in the game? Or at least put Justin’s reads to the right so he can keep an eye on his super isolated rookie RT? Or just do a 3/5 step drop to something quick?

This post isn’t just to pile on Getsy, but the entire playcall seems backwards to me. And the routes by the TE and RB were essentially useless so it’s pretty close to playing 9v11. I’m interested if there’s any rational explanation from someone that has coached or even played the game at a decent level.

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[–] SurelyRight@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think you understand it pretty well

[–] BobbleBobble@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah you probably put more thought into that playcall than Getsy did

[–] TidyJoe34@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Wright did just fine on that play. Fields should've stepped up in the pocket and it wouldn't have happened.

[–] Standard_Employee751@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wright has to make that block. Can’t just get bitched like that in half a second

[–] Thexnxword@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

True.. but you have to plan to help your rookie tackle in gotta have it situations vs the best player on the defense. Someone else has to make that play in my opinion. Now, maybe the lions switched up tendencies and put Hutch opposite of the strength call but I don't know how they normally play it and tbh I don't care. You gotta give your QB answers, especially against division opponents. I'm not here to pile on Getsy, he's growing as a coach too, but like, when do we see it translate?

[–] MiddleNameIsJoe@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's the QB's job to see the pass rush coming from his vision side and take literally one step up in the pocket.

People will act hysterical at the mere suggestion that an NFL qb could ever be asked to perform such a heroic task, but that's the truth of it

[–] okay_throwaway_today@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

The issue is the depth of the drop back and not securing the best pash rusher even with a chip

[–] Silver_Harvest@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Really Getsy is just a terrible schemer and play designer. Can't remember the RB the play but should have 100% been assigned to assist Darnell with Cole split out. If Cole lined up next to Darnell should have chipped then go.

[–] Weak_Link_6969@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’m truly rooting for Fields and not at all trying to throw him under the bus here, but it’s on the QB to shift protection pre snap. Even the best OCs don’t just know where pressure might come from before the defense even lines up.

[–] PraiseBeToScience@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Protection assignments are different for each team. Sometimes the QB does it, sometimes the center does it. Then there are rules set by the OC for different formations. And if you're not in the Hallas Hall you don't know the system the Bears use for changing protection assignments.

[–] Weak_Link_6969@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I do know if the protection is wrong, the QB has an opportunity to correct it before the ball is snapped.

[–] 0bn0xi0usly0bs3rv4nt@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Coaching negligence and incompetence.

[–] Brodie1567@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It just baffles me, that as a coach/O with years of experience….you decide not to pay more attention to one of the top DEs in the game in a clutch moment.

Us armchair goobers can see this shit.

[–] TonyWilliams03@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Nagy did the same thing all the time.

[–] Pancakes79@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I'm looking forward to seeing what JT has to say about it

[–] Toe-Dragger@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Good DE’s are allowed to play whatever end of the line they want, they can give one look, them swap sides. It’s on the QB to “read the fucking defense” and adjust. A QB can tell a RB to swap sides and stay home to block, the OF can’t make that adjustment.

[–] dmoore995@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
  1. Hard to say RB and TE weren't meant to block at all. Truth is sometimes players just get confused and miss assignments. Looks to me like RB was blitz pick up, no one blitzed so ran out to the flat. TE looks like should have been a better chip, I notice schultz does same thins, very weak blocking.
  2. Hutchinson is great and you have to focus on him, but you can't just make every play about stopping hutch. Sometimes you just have to leave it to the tackle, sometimes tackles get beat 1 on 1. Better the tackle the less they get beat.
  3. I don't actually mind the play call, looks like its a quick read deep and then if not open immediately hit the wide open flat with the TE there as a blocker. Fields coulda been a bit quicker, and stepped up to bought a second. Wright could have lasted a Fraction of a second longer.
[–] MonsignorHalas@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

RB goes to flat because it’s four man rush. He’s a dump off. He’s meant to pull LB up. He did his job.

[–] y_wont_my_line_block@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I'm not reading all that but I don't think it's complex.

Aidan Hutchinson took Darnell Wright's lunch money. And he didn't give it back.

[–] PigeonPlayz1307@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Similar mistakes have happened time after time

They all review film

They keep making head scratching decisions

I wonder if betting has an influence 🤔 /s

[–] ArtMorgan69@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Wright handled Hutch all game until that play. Hutch is great and made a play when it mattered. Flus and Getsy make a lot of boneheaded decisions but I’m not faulting coaching for that play happening.

[–] archie905@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I am in agreement on that play, it was the previous series i had a problem with running into the heart of the d line twice with Herbert who just came off i r and had a horseshit game before that. Then we throw a 40 yard bomb that is a low precentage play GETSY HAS TO BE GONE

[–] archie905@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I am in agreement on that play, it was the previous series i had a problem with running into the heart of the d line twice with Herbert who just came off i r and had a horseshit game before that. Then we throw a 40 yard bomb that is a low precentage play GETSY HAS TO BE GONE

[–] 85_bears@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

This is a MasterClass of a two-year tank

[–] MonsignorHalas@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

The drop is Justin’s fault. He’s too deep. You’re asking about this play so you will get it scored.

The play call with the time we had was no more than five steps and boom release to out route. No chance it was seven steps and pray for someone to be open.

This is how Justin ends up with 18.6 QBR in the final two minutes of halves.

I say this as someone that knows Justin had a fantastic game against the Lions, but his mistakes were game changers. Maybe more reps and he stops making the same mistakes. I hope so.

[–] Toontown019@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

You got it mostly right from the start tbh. That’s a huge sign as to how bad Getsy is at scheming, if fans like us can see those design flaws you can bet your bottom dollar NFL teams see that. To be fair to Wright he’d been handling Hutch pretty well, that deep TD to Moore was only possible because Wright stonewalled Hutch off the jump, but those guys get paid too and for good reason. You’re gonna lose one or two reps to elite talent, it’s what makes them elite. Doesn’t mean Wright is mid or garbage, and I can blame Getsy for even putting Wright in a position to fail like that to start.

We just saw this play out in the KC vs Eagles game. Relying on your QB, even a generational one like Mahomes, to win in spite of bad playcalling is playing with one hand tied behind your back

[–] Jake-Old-Trail-88@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

That’s what we call poor play design

[–] LegalComplaint@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Getsy accidentally hit that button in Madden that flips the play without realizing it.

[–] IMKudaimi123@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Obvious passing down you need 5 receivers if they’re not blitzing

Wright did well on Hutchinson most of the game. I’m not mad they didn’t chip here

Hutchinson was gonna beat him eventually and it just happened. Fields also kinda didn’t just hit the top of his drop and step up, he leaned back and took a step right which made it easier to fumble

Unfortunate play. Mostly on wright, a little on fields but shouldn’t take away from a good day from both

[–] airberger@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I'd say there is plenty of blame to go around on that play.

But the blame for putting Fields deep in Bears territory down 3 with 26 seconds to go lies with the coaching staff. The pathetic 3-and-out on the previous possession not only delivered the ball back to Detroit on a platter, but took the offense completely out of what had been, until that point, a pretty decent rhythm.

[–] m0chab34r@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Why didn't Fields audible out of what Getsy called and into something, anything that would have resulted in help on Hutchinson's side? Like, even just telling the RB, come stand on this side and chip before you release for your route. I'm not an NFL quarterback, but this is stuff that even a decent Madden player recognizes lol

[–] Huger_and_shinier@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

There were quite a few protection schemes that I saw (definitely not a high level coach) that made no sense at all. I don’t know who is calling the protection- the walk on center? Fields? Someone needs to be calling it at the line and it’s not working.