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you are speaking facts but to these truthers Fields can never do no harm and its always someone else's fault. cant wait for them to be gone next offseason

Everything you have written is true. Be prepared to be downvoted for posting truth here.

You need to take a look at the all 22 for this because you’re missing pieces here in the early screenshots.

I’m pretty sure on that play you’re reading the defense (Lmao) and taking the route according to how they react. The three routes underneath including Moore’s were going toward the three defenders in coverage. Moore was “open” but he wasn’t the main play to be made here. Those three defenders came down and it would have been a fight to get the first down. Would have set up a manageable 4th down though. But the defenders coming down opened things up for Tyler Scott and he beat his man.

Fields did not overthrow that ball. There where multiple throws Fields made (and didn’t make) in the game that you can criticize him for and rightfully so. This isn’t one of those. You can see the All-22 where Scott slows down on the double move and then stutters when he tries to track the ball in the air. It’s a rookie mistake and I’m not blaming him for the loss. But that particular play was on him. That stutter and the double move was the difference in that throw being caught. DJ makes that route and catch all day.

Also, you’re saying he threw into double coverage but Tyler Scott clearly had a step on those two defenders even with him stuttering and slowing down. There is no way their secondary is faster than Tyler Scott either so the hope there would have been for them to get a piece of his shoe. Pretty sure that would have been taken to the house.

The last thing, I keep hearing this thing about taking the conservative play. With reference to the situation. As I understand, you run the play as intended and not what the situation in the game is. UNLESS, you’re told otherwise. But we currently aren’t aware if there was any communication with Justin and the staff about that during the time.

I posted the video of this play last night and got roasted for saying the same thing.

Can’t say Fields maybe should have thrown it to Dj Moore, that’s hating on Fields and makes you stupid.

Matt Bowen did a breakdown on this on the All 22 tape. The read was right - Moore was covered by the safety coming down to him from the other side and Scott had his man beat over the top. The ball was perfect, Scott stopped running.

There is no way in hell that Fields actually went through his progression. He never looked at DJ.

This isn't how it works. You don't look at your second read when your first read is open. Fields correctly identified Scott as open, so he threw him the ball. If you have a problem with that, then complain about Getsy dialing up a deep route when we were supposed to be bleeding the clock.

Best advice for now is to not play this game. The lines are drawn in this sub.

Coaches are at fault.

Fields cannot execute in crunch time giving away win after win.

The only result in playing is global thermonuclear war.

Fields overthrew Scott. People keep clamoring about how it was a "perfect" ball. It wasn't. He overthrew it. He also threw it into double coverage of sorts. Scott beat his primary defender, but the safety absolutely was right there. I don't know what anyone wants or expects Scott to be able to do here. There is maybe the slightest of stutter steps, potentially, but I see a guy extending himself as much as he can to make the play, but coming up short because the ball was thrown too far. And really, how often do receivers make the catch when outstretched as far as they can be? We just saw a receiver for KC drop a similar ball that was better thrown.

This is just completely fabricated. Scott himself says he misjudged the ball. Just grasping at straws at this point

this is one ridiculous post

i guess last night Mahommes shouldnt have thrown that ball to Scantling and instead should have taken the 5 yarder for the hope of a catch and run

this staff will not attack with weapons which is the opposite of winning football

I'm so tired of this

Fields threw a dime and Scott slowed down. This happened during the Texans game last year and it resulted in 2 picks.

No shit he’s so hesitant to throw when his receivers don’t want to run to the ball.

I beg you to lurk more. You are out of your depths.

1 robber, robber safety rotates down to cutoff the crosser. Middle field player is across the field rotating. Scott wins immediately vs. press. You throw that ball every time.

You clearly have a bias towards Field. The Bears shouldn't have been in this position to begin with. If the coaching staff had been more agressive in the previous few drives where they had to settle for fields goals, this game would have been over.

I haven't looked at any film and I don't know what his progressions were.

But calling his pass to Scott "overthrown" is the dumbest thing I've read today, and there is stiff competition for that honor.

My only complaint about the last serious is we didn’t use timeouts. The clock was already stopped with Lions timeouts. We could have sent out a formation, see if we liked a matchup then called a timeout.

Without context the playcalling didn’t bother me. We ran inside zone, option then the pass play. The first two run designed worked for most of the game.

With context what bothers me is our coaches still seem surprised by what Fields does. If Mahomes is an artist Fields is much more robotic. He takes his read’s literally when he makes them. So my issue is with the second down option play. Fields was never going to keep that ball. He saw the wide 9 edge and it was going to be a give to the RB inside. He did it all game.

We ran up the gut right into the line twice and got put in a third and long and we are blaming the QB. The play calling was horrible.

I mean DJ was short of the sticks and the defense saw him for sure. I would prefer Fields still throws to him but the first down wasn't a guarantee there. Although running the clock was a for sure thing. He made a great throw that should have been caught. It sucks that we lost, but he didn't take a sack there and made a great throw. So we move on from that. The last play is unacceptable as you have to have eyes on Hutch.

How many other plays throughout this game…or the entire year can we point to where someone on the bears missed a block, ran the wrong route, lined up incorrectly and it’s diagnosed acknowledged and moved on (if ever discussed) Justin was the reason why they were still in that game. He is not the reason they lost and this play is not the reason they lost. Setup a better third down situation and not run up the middle two plays in a row when the Lions knew what was coming. I love how everyone is an expert on breaking down film too all of a sudden. As a receiver you’re taught to run through the ball. Fact: he stuttered just enough to cause the incompletion. Waddle on ESPN also Jurko said this yesterday on their shows. I trust their opinions and expertise on that play than any other person who posts on here. Perfectly thrown ball that was missed. Haven’t seen a single post about giving up 17 point in 4 minutes? First TD drive for the lions in the 4th 75 yards in 76 seconds? Missed tackle on that drive by Edmund’s that would’ve kept Gibbs in bounds and the lions burning a timeout rather than getting out to stop the clock? Why aren’t all of these plays being discussed? This play or the play of the QB is not the reason the Bears lost.

You should be on espn, most of the people over there don’t know Shit. Should fit right in

JFC all I heard on this sub to start the season was bashing Fields for playing gun shy and not actually letting it rip in a timely manner. Now you wanna jump on him for doing what people have been begging him to do? You can’t have it both ways. All QBs miss plays in the heat of the moment, and to complain about his decision here is just plain wrong. If it’s first or second down, maybe he does make that throw to DJ more comfortably, but he got the exact look they wanted to beat that play and he did what he should have done. Getsy and Flus both have said that’s where the ball was supposed to go as the Lions were in cover 1 robber and stacked the box up front.

I’m not sold on JF either, but I find it so hilarious how many of these posts are just legitimately hate-based nonsense. Y’all are the same people whining about people rooting against Bagent and yet do the same thing against Fields.

If you wanna actually criticize him, talk about his real mistakes like when he missed DJ early on by overthrowing a sure fire TD. Or how at times he was still really skittish in the pocket and bailed too early on some plays. But blaming him for missing DJ in that spot when the coaches had just called two horrible run plays to make it 3rd and long is not the point you think it is.

And if you think that miss was on Fields more than Scott, please re-evaluate the perspective you hold on the game of football.

Okay, I guess the Reddit experts know more than the QB gurus like JT O' Sullivan, Tim Jenkins, and Kurt Warner who say it was the right read and that the WR slowed down and misread it.

Multiple former QBs and even the player who dropped it: Yeah that was the right throw, he just shortened steps.

Fields hater: aKsHuALLy

Anyone who doesn’t think the higher percentage throw was to Moore just doesn’t know analytics. It doesn’t matter if the throw ended up being good and Scott should have caught it. The fact he didn’t shows going to the still developing, if you’re benign optimistic, receiver on a dee ball was not the right move. To be clear even if Scott had caught it Moore is still the right choice. He just proved what would have been theory on deep ball can be hard for a below average wr to judge.

Anyone who doesn’t think the higher percentage throw was to Moore just doesn’t know analytics. It doesn’t matter if the throw ended up being good and Scott should have caught it. The fact he didn’t shows going to the still developing, if you’re benign optimistic, receiver on a dee ball was not the right move. To be clear even if Scott had caught it Moore is still the right choice. He just proved what would have been theory on deep ball can be hard for a below average wr to judge.