Ukraine is doing better than all pre-war expectations. This isnβt a game and war is often slow. We must continue to support Ukraine, as the alternative is to prove to the dictators of the world they just need to wait for a few years and the west will get bored of helping those they wish to conquer.
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Exactly. This war needs to be a loss for Russia if we want to avoid future wars with other victims. So even if Ukraine and Russia both lose in the end that would still be a better outcome than if Russia can see itself or can be seen by nations with similar ambitions as anything resembling the winner.
Besides, every year we support Ukraine, the Russian economy and society suffers more for this dumb decision by the dictator they continue to support
Which is rather unfortunate for the citizens...
Sure. But what is the alternative?
Fuck putin and fuck his dumb fucking war.
Slava Ukraini!
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Why am I getting a ton of downvotes for providing a link? Not that it matters much, but it's curious.
I suppose the title is a kind of negative one towards Ukraine.
I watched the video and it's also fairly negative. Some is probably fair, but some probably not.
I don't think that the infighting over Biden's aid bill shows much of a change in the US away from support for Ukraine, for example, which DW claimed -- the driving issue isn't opposition to the bill, but Republicans wanting to condition its passage on getting unrelated policies that they want. That sort of thing is something of a property of the American political system -- when important bills go through, using them as leverage to get other things one wants can happen, given that approval by two legislative houses and the President are generally required, and those may not be in political agreement -- it's rare for one party to control all three. Leveraging their ability to block legislation is a way for one of the three to get other legislation that they want.
I also think that while Ukraine's counteroffensive towards the Sea of Azov might be useful to Ukraine, even a successful counteroffensive alone is unlikely to end the war, nor is it necessary that it succeed for Ukraine to obtain favorable terms. DW presented the counteroffensive as being somewhat the point on which the war hinged, which I don't think is accurate. Russia could continue the war even if cut off from Crimea, and Russia is not guaranteed to win a war of attrition.
All fair comments, which they should have been imho. But I suppose it's the way the world works now, downvotes instead of being constructive.
It's Internet. Propaganda, lies and mistakes are everywhere. You simply can't go through all of them and patiently explain the flaws of the bad stuff, especially when trolls get involved on top. Downvote is not a perfect way to go around this, but is one way.
Russian propaganda headline at a time when Russia is doing another media push