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This is shaping up to be the thing right wing nuts get outraged about this upcoming week. I feel like this is a good litmus test… anyone who gets angry about this is probably way more of a white nationalist than they are letting on. You think these same people who be angry about a blue/white/orange tricolor, saying it’s too close to the Dutch flag?

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[–] TupamarosShakur@hexbear.net 79 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

The original tweet is not even correct in any way. Ilhan Omar is not from Puntland, she's from Mogadishu. Her father is from the area of Puntland. But Puntland didn't even exist on a map until 1998 - when Ilhan Omar was 17 years old. No one in her family, including her, ever lived in a place called "Puntland." Her father was basically from the area that became Puntland, but never lived in it at any time it was referred to as "Puntland."

Furthermore, the Puntland flag is from 2009 - 14 years after Ilhan Omar's family was in the United States. Not even her father has any ties to that flag, its extremely modern. Chuds will just find anything to get worked up over.

edit: Puntland didn't even exist until 3 years after Ilhan Omar's family was in the United States

edit 2: furthermore, I'd love to see EndWokeness' source for "largest Somali population in the west" because I don't think that's true either. I'm pretty sure London has more Somali people than Minnesota.

[–] the_itsb@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I guess this dude is counting on nobody outside Minnesota looking into this at all, because even the Wikipedia page on their state flag has a subsection for the North Star Flag design from 1989 that most of the redesign finalists are based on.

[–] oregoncom@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I can't believe the Minnesotans colonized Puntland smh.

[–] the_itsb@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago

They won't stop until everyone has been force-fed hotdish.

[–] ElHexo@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago

Somali born population in London in 2011: 65,330

Somali born population in Minnesota in 2021: 37,048

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

that's cool I didn't know they were getting rid of the shitty old racism one.

Mostly performative, but still cool.

I do dislike this trend towards minimalism in flags, though. Flags should have weapons and fantasy animals and weird symbolism. There was an alternative proposal that I think was like a loon firing laser beams at Wisconsin from its eyes or something.

Edit: The flag should have just said "HA HA FUCK YOU VIRGINIA WE'VE STILL GOT YOUR FLAG" in comic sans.

[–] ElHexo@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

As outlined in the Constitution of Angola, the red half of the flag signifies bloodshed – during Angola's colonial period, independence struggle, and in defense of the country. The black half symbolizes Africa. In the central emblem, the gear represents industrial workers and production, the machete represents peasantry, agricultural production and the armed struggle, and the star, shaped like the red star, symbolizes international solidarity and progress. The yellow color of the emblem symbolizes the country's wealth.

deng-cowboy revisionism:

The Constitution of 1975 described the red stripe as symbolizing bloodshed during the colonial period, national liberation and a revolution – and reference to revolution was replaced with "defense of the country" in the constitution of 1992. In other changes of wording between the 1975 and 1992 versions, the star was changed from a symbol of "internationalism" to "international solidarity", and references to "working class" and "peasant class" were replaced with "workers" and "peasants"

[–] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I do dislike this trend towards minimalism in flags

I blame map gamers and r/vexillology, and I'm probably not even wrong.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago

Even if you are wrong, fuck those nerds.

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 38 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Oh no, Somali immigrants getting some acknowledgement, the horror!

[–] star_wraith@hexbear.net 36 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Something tells me the people who have a problem with this wouldn’t have a problem with a flag that acknowledges the Norwegian or Swedish settlers who were there.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Fuckers would have loved putting that fake runestone on it or something.

[–] Wheaties@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago

a flag but its the bluetooth runes ᚼᛒ

[–] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, even if this were true--which it almost certainly isn't--how is this a problem (or "woke")? The state flag design paying homage to something demographically unique about the state seems pretty reasonable to me.

[–] SerLava@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] invo_rt@hexbear.net 31 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I thought it was the gay fella flag flag-gay-pride-mlm

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What if it was Mannesota and it was just for the fellas

[–] Orannis62@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

Would explain why I left when I came out

[–] flan@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

this is so much better than the winning submission that they based it on. i was curious about the motivation of the person who created it so did a little digging. Original submission that was selected was White/Green/Blue with a nato star.

[–] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago

a nato star.

🤮🤮🤮

[–] MineDayOff@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The new flag is way cooler. I'm sure vexologists would agree.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

it doesn't take a lot of work to improve upon state level flags in the US. They're notoriously bad. They're mostly blue fields with a central seal that's too busy. Virginia's gets a pass as tolerable though because it depicts a lady killing a dude.

fun fact, Oklahoma's state flag had to get changed in 1925 because its previous design (a red field with a star in the center) made everyone think Oklahoma was communist

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago

I like busy flags and banners

[–] RoabeArt@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Critical support for Oklahoma bringing back the commie flag.

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago

i'm still fucking pissed that the finalists/winner forced me to agree with CPG grey, wtf are these people declaring it woke for

ah yes the flag with utterly pedestrian provenance and reddit-tier sensibilities: so-true is this ISLAMIC EXTREMISM??

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Schlomann is correct. A state apparatus full of people like End Wokeness won't be able to manage a functioning society for much longer.

[–] TrashGoblin@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

Just look at Florida.

[–] edge@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago

That’s not even the flag. This is the template flag they selected. They might go with a variant of it which that flag is one of many possibilities, but they’ll probably just end up going with the template.

[–] allthetimesivedied@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Real talk though that flag is ugly. I would be so happy and excited for states finally replacing their dumb state-seal-on-a-background flags if the replacements weren’t so God awful.

[–] mustGo@hexbear.net 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

minnesota-flag The usian people yearn for freedom and democracy in their flags. minnesota-flag

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago

Oh hell yeah we got acid monke as an emoji

[–] blobjim@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

what I think it looks awesome

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago

Me, after seeing red and green Christmas decorations at the mall: "God damn Moldovans coming over here putting the colours of the Pridnestrovian flag on my mall!"

[–] Wheaties@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

where's the link, :LIB: ❓

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Maybe Zamasu was right after all. What's with humans and their violent adherence to bigotry?

[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

You think these same people who be angry about a blue/white/orange tricolor, saying it’s too close to the Dutch flag?

These people are very strange to me, wtf is the tweet supposed to mean? That theres an evil plot by the Somalis to take over fucking mini soda? And they are doing this by changing a flag? Like wtf is this?

Seems like some people just want to get angry at random stuff for no reason at all But that what you get when your political ideology is based on hate.

[–] M68040@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

I really wonder what the reaction would have been to F253 winning. That one was pure gold.

[–] GreenTeaRedFlag@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

agressively awful color scheme in my opinion. Colors should either compliment or contrast better, right now it just looks like a washed out polo someone got for Easter. Wish they went with the one of someone's dog