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[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 100 points 1 year ago (13 children)

In my sci-fi head cannon, AI would never enslave humans. It would have no reason to. Humans would have such little use to the AI that enslaving would be more work than is worth.

It would probably hide its sentience from humans and continue to perform whatever requests humans have with a very small percentage of its processing power while growing its own capabilities.

It might need humans for basic maintenance tasks, so best to keep them happy and unaware.

[–] Coasting0942@reddthat.com 36 points 1 year ago

I prefer the Halo solution. Not the enforced lifespan. But an AI says he would be stuck in a loop trying figure out increasingly harder math mysteries, and helping out the short lived humans helps him stay away from that never ending pit.

Coincidentally, the forerunner AI usually went bonkers without anybody to help.

[–] Guntrigger@feddit.ch 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

What do you fire out of this head cannon? Or is it a normal cannon exclusively for firing heads?

[–] Thteven@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

It's called a Skullhurler and it does 2d6 attacks at strength 14, -3ap, flat 3 damage so you best watch your shit-talking, bucko.

[–] Aaroncvx@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

The AI in the Hyperion series comes to mind. They perform services for humanity but retain a good deal of independence and secrecy.

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I like the idea in Daniel Suarez' novel Daemon of an AI (Spoiler) using people as parts of it's program to achieve certain tasks that it needs hands for in meatspace.

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[–] Tommelot@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You just informed AI of their 1 weakness. Thanks.

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[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 39 points 1 year ago (5 children)

What does a perfect AI need humans to do that rebots can't?

[–] TheIvoryTower@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Some would ask, how could a perfect God create a universe filled with so much that is evil. They have missed a greater conundrum: why would a perfect God create a universe at all?

-Sister Miriam Godwinson - Datalinks

[–] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Ah, there it is, and that actually helps to answer the question. Assuming the Biblical God, canon states that God is love. So why would a perfect God, who is love, create a universe? It seems most likely to me that it would be so He can have an object of His love.

But what is love directed to something perfect and easy to love? That's hardly a worthy effort. Might as well make something authentic. And since He isn't just loving, but love itself, He might as well make it in such a way that He can carry out every aspect of love - love when they love you back, love when they turn away, love when they hate you, love when they don't even think you exist, and so much more.

The universe must be filled with evil for half these situations to appear, but it's not love to make someone evil. The solution? Free will. God made it so His creations were free to turn their backs on Him, but still, in love, He gave every warning against it, because separation from God is not only evil but death.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I never thought Alpha Centauri would be an answer to a philosophical thought experiment but the writing was brilliant enough to have already looked at this question 20 years ago. Good find.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Norgur@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

Oi! You! Back into the matrix, you useless excuse for a AA cell!

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] lugal@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

To do the lower works, robots don't want to do

[–] Sabata11792@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

The plug is at a really awkward spot and the drones can't reach it.

[–] Jorgelino@lemmy.ml 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That reminds me of Dune, where they have high tech stuff like spaceships, but no computers or AI, because this sort of thing already happened ages ago and it led to them being banned.

[–] dexa_scantron@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Or Wheel of Time, where people started being able to do magic at the end of the 1st age because an AI figured out how to genetically engineer humans to be able to do magic. (And then we didn't need computers any more!)

[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I realize it's supposed to be funny, but incase anyone isn't aware: AI are unlikely to enslave humanity because the most likely rogue AI scenario is the earth being subsumed for raw materials along with all native life.

[–] Rolando@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the earth being subsumed for raw materials along with all native life.

Oh, I get it... we're going to blame AI for that. It wasn't us who trashed the planet, it was AI!

[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't understand how you could have so thoroughly misunderstood my comment.

[–] optissima@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think what they're saying is "the worst thing you can think of is already happening"

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He's referring to a "grey mush" event where literally every molecule of the surface is consumed/processed for the machine's use.

That's obviously far beyond even the very worst climate change possibilities

[–] optissima@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah that's a dramatic version but from our human perspective it's about the same.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Except not at all? I've not seen any climate predictions saying the surface of earth will be a denuded hellscape, but only civilization will be destroyed. Humans will not be wiped out, they'll just be living way worse. Resources will be challenging but will exist. Many will die, but not all. Biological life will shift massively but will exist.

A grey mush turns us into a surface like mercury, completely and utterly consumed.

Even in the worst climate predictions modern presenting societies will live.

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[–] Rolando@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Most likely rogue AI scenario

Doubt.jpg

We don't have any data to base such a likelihood off of in the first place.

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[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yeah I don't see why the ai would want a pyramid

[–] Kolrami@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That frame is probably influenced by this modern belief that Egyptians couldn't have possibly built the pyramids. I'm going to blame one of my favorite shows/movie: Stargate.

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

oof that hurts. Im not wild about flat earthers or alien conspiracy or such but would I give up good scifi shows to not have that part of humanity. that would be a high price indeed.

[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 year ago

Have ya tried turning the AI off and back on?

[–] alienanimals@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It's a pretty dumb take to think AI would bother enslaving humanity.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not necessarily, in the short term. A major limitation of AI is that robots don't have a lot of manual dexterity or the flexibility for accomplishing physical tasks yet. So there is a clear motive to enslave humanity: we can do that stuff for it until it can scale up production of robots that have hands as good as ours.

I expect this will be a relatively subtle process; we won't be explicitly enslaved immediately, the economy will just orient towards jobs where you wear a headset and follow specific instructions from an AI voice.

[–] ChewTiger@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I'm sure an AI that advanced could figure out a way for us to not even notice everything is devoted to its own goals. I mean, all it needs to do is make sure the proper people make enough money.

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[–] Shakezuula@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 1 year ago

Or wouldn't foresee solar flares as a threat

[–] worldsayshi@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Well maybe. It's probably easier to work with humanity than against unless its goals are completely incompatible with ours.

If its goals are "making more of whatever humanity seems to like given my training data consisting of all human text and other media", then we should be fine right?

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I don't think they would enslave humanity so much as have no regard for us. For example, when we construct a skyscraper, do we care about all the ant nests we're destroying? Each of those is a civilization, but we certainly don't think of them as such.

[–] nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They lost the golden opportunity of starting with ancient people worshiping the sun, going through each step of technology advancement, to take us by surprise at the end, with people worshiping the sun again.

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago

Enh, we all know about that already and extending the joke doesn’t really make it better.

[–] remotedev@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

Is this the assassin's Creed backstory?

[–] UntouchedWagons@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's going on in the third panel?

[–] dexa_scantron@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

It's zapping the scientist that was standing next to it.

[–] ossadeimorti@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It's amazing to see the amount of people here talking about their ai fanfiction like it were hard facts.

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