Honestly after the Cyberpunk debacle I can easily see why, the decisions that led to that were almost certainly made by marketing and C-Suite and not the devs. Someone correct me if that’s wrong. If they actually learn from those mistakes I have no doubt they’ll reclaim the rep they had after the Witcher 3
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Honestly they've already reclaimed a lot of rep fixing cyberpunk, especially after the 2.0 update.
I think they’ve done a great job with that and I really enjoyed Cyberpunk, I mean more with the vast majority of the public there’s still gonna be a stigma whether it’s fair or not. That debacle was really damn visible, undoing that damage in totality is gonna take a new release without those major issues imo
I picked it up on the Steam winter sale. Been waiting to play this one for so long and can't wait!
I haven't really played cyberpunk at all even though I own the game
Is it even worth playing ?
I think it absolutely is. I played it a bit at launch and didn't find it near as bad as others but still set it aside. Started it fresh again with the expansion, and I had such a blast with it. You own it, so I see no reason not to a least give it a try.
Oh, absolutely, it's a completely different experience now than on launch. It's a properly good RPG nowadays, although your choices don't matter much in the storyline.
Yea it's worth playing now. It's not a masterpiece, but it's fun enough.
Honestly, unless you’re on last gen consoles, it’s been worth playing since launch. Its bugs were no worse than Skyrim on consoles, and less bad in many ways. The game itself is probably the most open world immersive sim we’ve ever gotten. It’s not GTA, and it’s not trying to be. It’s not a sandbox, and it’s not a psychopath simulator like GTA. It’s a deep, philosophical, highly emergent single player game with a well-written story and competent acting in probably one of the most beautiful game worlds of all time.
I don't use Consoles because I don't like the paywalls
A reasonable position to take.
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They will not. What happened with Cyberpunk happened with Gwent before and nobody gave a single fuck.
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whats c-suite?
The top level management: CEO, CFO, CTO etc. Basically, the big bosses.
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i think that's a smart move on their part.
the CP2077 launch was rocky, but most of their previous games haven't had that level of hype. The Witcher 3 taking off like it did, gave them the confidence to go bigger. CP2077 is in a great place now, even if it didn't start that way.
Honestly, maybe they're just playing hard to get in order to raise the offer?
"Sure maybe we're worth about that... but think about what we might be worth in a few years."
I'm still sad about Gwent, though. The only reasonably priced CCG I've played, with beautiful artwork and fun decks.
As soon as Marvel Snap dropped, it sucked out whatever remaining air the game had left and even the smaller streamers dropped out of sight.
They're almost certainly right.
Cyberpunk wasn't received well, but they seem to have No Man's Sky'd it into some sort of shape since.
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It would be nice if the entire world didn't consolidate into two mega corps. Good on CDR for having their own vision.
CP2077 + Phantom Liberty are excellent. I just started a new playthrough. I wish it had released in this shape.
Good. Not every studio needs to be snatched up by a massive corporation. Embracer's yearlong meltdown is a great example of how that can end badly.
Every company that gets bought by another corporation either cranks out a few good games and then dies, or cranks out an okay game and then dies. The eventual outcome is always death.
Bullfrog, Raven, Westwood Studios, Bioware, Origin, Maxis, Viceral Games, all of them.
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I doubt it. They laid off 9 percent of the staff this July. That's far away from the 2077 launch. I would guess it's after the majority of Phantom Liberty's development is done.
Layoffs are only a bad sign for workers. For the owners and investors, it's the standard strategy for growth.
Layoffs are only a bad sign for workers. For the ~~owners and investors~~ parasites, it’s the standard strategy for growth.
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Excellent. I'm eager to see the doings.
they need to fire their whole ai department and theyll be flying lmfao
oh I thought MSFT already owned them. I guess not.
"Yet."
- Phil Spencer, probably
I believe it. Lessons learned and all
Please correct me if I *have the wrong impression here but how much does a sentiment like this matter if some big bethesda shaped behemoth makes the moves to acquire? Wouldnt business sense dictate that you sell if the offer is juicy enough?
Maybe the owners care more about running a sustainable company that makes good games than they do about getting a bunch of money.
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The videogame world is weird. Say you are a small buisness in a miner town making cast and hardened steel parts for mining equipment. If a big manufacturer comes around and offers to buy you out, your alternative to saying "yes" is them, opening up their own buisness and driving your sales into the ground with cheaper offers. But if Bethesda says to CD Project RED "Either you accept the acquisition or we are going to make better games." CDPR can just say "Haha, good luck."
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Fucking Based
For better or worse we need more developers free from the large gaming companies.
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