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[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 71 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh they’re experiencing it alright

[–] zifnab25@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No, no, no. They aren't advanced enough to experience True Capitalism. In Africa, Capitalism has simply never been tried. That's why they don't have the big malls and the ranch style homes and the overabundance of third world natural resources at discount rates.

To the Africans I say GIVE CAPITALISM A CHANCE. Your first step is to launch a fleet of Liberation Ships to the coast of Florida, where you can bring Freedom and Justice to the oppressed peoples of Miami and Ft. Lauderdale. Then spread your message of peace, love, and the Grace of God all along the Gulf and Atlantic Coasts, where millions of lazy and uneducated white natives have fallen victim to the removed habits of a Godless Nation. Finally, you can build for yourselves a shining City on a Hill using the newly harnessed energy resources of these once slovenly and backwards peoples. And you can set yourselves up as an example for the rest of the Central World, as a glorious African Union.

[–] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

Your first step is to launch a fleet of Liberation Ships to the coast of Florida, where you can bring Freedom and Justice to the oppressed peoples of Miami and Ft. Lauderdale

sicko-wistful

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

No you silly goose. That's not real capitalism. Real capitalism is when nice things happens to white people in office towers in the west.

[–] Emanuel@lemmy.eco.br 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's supposed to be "evidence" that the global south doesn't "use capitalism," which is supposed to explain...something.

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago

Probably some hitler-detector shit.

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Imo it's implied that the reason they're "underdeveloped", "poor", and have low life expectancy etc are all because they aren't "using capitalism". Which, while not what they mean, is not entirely wrong; if Angola were the global capitalist hegemon and able to use capitalism as an extractive weapon on other countries, presumably they'd be a lot better off.

[–] Emanuel@lemmy.eco.br 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I got that, but then you look at like Italy and Botswana and this just falls apart

Like, the argument seems to be "look at this map, let's be more like Georgia"

It would probably also help to understand the nonexistent point if the map had more pixels

[–] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

Yes, none of it makes any sense or is coherent in any way.

It means look at this photograph and hopefully back down because he's bringing hard truths to the argument.

[–] BeanBoy@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago

Nordic socialism supporters in shambles

[–] half_giraffe@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago

ancaptain on suicide watch after learning Argentina doesn't "use capitalism"

[–] odmroz@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

Incredible! To think, if only Africa had ever been affected by capitalism!

[–] Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My question is, what did Botswana do to get on their good side?

[–] zifnab25@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botswana#Independence

In the 1970s, Botswana held a reputation of being one the world's principal producers of diamonds. This reputation has held into the modern day as Botswana's diamond mining industry is among the world's largest.

So they play nice with the West by giving them diamonds.

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] zifnab25@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Plenty of them are just Settlers.

South African, Johannes “Jannie” Mouton

Rhodesian, Jonathan Gibson

Italian Giorgio Giachetti

Canadian Eira Thomas

They're all just European ex-pats looting the country from the inside.

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's a difference between settlers and expats

Settlers connotate hands-on rawdogging early bloody landholding and industrial capital and its allies, that seeks to ethnically cleanse, if not genocide an indigenous area and settle its new superstructure there... they're much direct and reactionary as is...

[–] zifnab25@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Settlers connotate hands-on rawdogging early bloody landholding and industrial capital and its allies

I think all of the above fit the bill.

I mean I guess, but expats strike me more as part of a sterile Finance capital, PMC and its allies around the world, who are essentially little Eichmanns that stay in one country and move to another for business and so on so forth, keeping their hands and image 'clean', 'diverse', et 'diplomatic'... they aren't really Trumpists, who want to defend to hell their settler-colonial land...

They may not ethnically cleanse, if not genocide native populations but they do the paperwork of approving company policy to ruin them into the ground...

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So England is fully capitalist while Scotland is only partially capitalist?

[–] biden@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

They technically have their own prime minister-ish figure and are a semi-autonomous nation with their own succdem led parliament. Like they still have to submit to England, but I guess they appease Scots by allowing them some different systems

For example, university is tuition free in Scotland but insanely expensive in England, which basically makes Scotland 50% USSR to these people

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This makes no goddamn sense. France is partially capitalist? I could see that being a “social democracy isn’t real capitalism” angle but then why the hell are the Nordic countries full capitalism? Botswana is full capitalism but South Africa is only partial, guessing that’s a “we have to recognize it’s highly developed for Africa but we don’t like Mandela so it gets a ding.”

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

It's just a map of how much capital exists in each country (maybe per capita to some extent to explain why China is partially capitalist)

[–] robinn_IV@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

This map is fucking awful

[–] charly4994@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

Besides the blue, everything's grey. Maybe use more than 2 colors zane

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Very curious how this person would define capitalism

[–] join_the_iww@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

markets, “””””property rights”””””, and ease of registering a business

[–] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

Landlords' rights.

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

It’s a ratio of melanin to treat consumption

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

Utter fuckin nonsense

[–] asg101@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

They might not use it, but are certainly used BY it.

[–] Xx_Aru_xX@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Algerian victory

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Communism was abandoned in 1991 which proves it always fails. But capitalism being embraced everywhere afterwards and countries still collapsing shows that communism always fails!

[–] Sinistar@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know this guy pulled this map completely out of his ass, but what exactly is the methodology here? My guuess is "income per capita" because otherwise why would the Nordic Model countries be "full capitalism".

[–] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

As far as I can tell, it's mostly "colonizers have full capitalism."