I know a few people that hide them in their bike frames. Will it tell bike thieves that the tag hidden in the stolen bike is following them?
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I would assume so. It's a difficult thing, because I'm really not okay with people covertly tracking others with airtags without their consent, but the it can of course also be used to track stolen items or so.
Feels like a tragedy of the commons sorta thing. Most people would use air tags responsibly, but a small number of people abuse them and thus kinda ruin them for everyone. We can't have nice things because people suck.
Yeah, they aren't really useful for anti theft, but that's the compromise you have to make for safety
Yes, but that already used to happen before if the thieve had an iPhone.
Yes it will, after some amount of time.
I think the solution to this problem is embedding the tag into the frame in such a way that removing it would be destructive or at least highly impractical. That's my plan at least. Waiting for my Chipolo trackers to arrive.
How would you do that, and what'll you do when it runs out of battery?
Embedding it also reduces range by a lot. Gplama did a test
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I haven't done any designs yet. I'm thinking about the steerer tube. It's carbon so it shouldn't impede the RF. Another option is somewhere within the saddle. Or maybe inside a reflector, on the wheel or otherwise. Possibly within a pedal, depending on the style of pedals. Or on the inside of a crank arm. Possibly epoxied to it. When the time comes for replacement, chisel it out of the aluminum, epoxy another one. ๐คท
They're not anti theft devices. Never were. They are anti losing my shit devices.
Slap one on your keys, wallet, etc, and when you lose them, you can track them to see where they ended up falling out of your pocket.
If you want a tracking device, pay for one. They'll use a SIM card, be undetectable, and track perfectly without needing a network of phones.
I've had that on my Android phone for some time now.
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/de.seemoo.at_tracking_detection/
Yes there's an Apple version
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/airguard-tracking-protection/id1659427454
This will be built-in Google Play for all Android 6+, no need for external app
But then you have to have Google Play installed ๐คฎ๐คฎ
There's an official apple version on Google Play too just search for com.apple.trackerdetect
Isn't it the one app that Apple has published on the Play Store?
They also have Apple Music and 'Move to iOS'
Ah, thank you
Apple has quite a few apps there. Music for one.
After reading this, I'm wondering how a phone could differentiate an Airtag following me from for example a guy with an Airtag sitting somewhere near me while inside a train for two hours.
I believe the tracker doesn't emit the same signal when the phone the AirTag is paired with are communicating directly. So as long as the owner of the airtag is in the vicinity it will not be considered as following/stalking you.
It can tell because the random guy's Airtag will be connected to his iPhone, it will only notify people if it isn't close to the owner's device
I'm pretty sure it's length of time. If you're on a train next to someone, you won't be for more than an hour or two. Not two days.
When the device follows you constantly for multiple days is likely when it'll make the alert.
When I visit family via train, google knows I was on a train ( maps timeline ), so maybe they can tell by how straight the travel is ?
It warns you but it doesn't contact the police for you. It's still up to you to assess the situation and your next steps. If you're on a sleeper train or have any reason to believe it's not a threat, just ignore it.
Wow, you let google watch you all the time? My location stays turned off unless needed.
How is this relevant in this context ?
It only notifies you if the air tag is without ite owner. If this wasn't the case I'd be getting notifications left and right for my wife's airtag. Instead I only get notifications when her phone is left behind but her tag is with me.
They can? Because I just checked on my Pixel 7 running latest update of Android 13 and the documented feature does not exist under safety and emergency. The update I'm running was released on July 5th and there are no newer updates available.
So again.... "Now"??? I guess they mean it's in the next version.
From the article:
Now Android users will soon get these "Unknown Tracker Alerts."
Emphasis mine.
Rule of android: if a post reads "now" in the headline, this means anywhere from 1 week to Never depending on where in the world you live and what phone you have.
Also applies to when Google does a "staged" rollout. Android Auto "Coolwalk" PTSD...
Pixel 7 Pro running 14 beta, don't see it either.
Bit OT, but has anyone used the Samsung tracker? Are they any good?
I mean they are currently /ok/ but since it's only samsung devices it bounces off instead of every android device it doesn't have the versatility that the Apple airtags have (where it bounces off any apple device and any android device with the app), so if it's between one of the other I would go with air tag since you can still use them on android (with a secondary app) but as always YMMV since it's made for Apple devices
that being said, might be changing with googles support for trackers!
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