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[–] MisterMoo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Elon Musk telling the world he’s never been to therapy as if his wretched life isn’t a giant monument to that obvious fact. Oh, really, Elon? Wow! You seem so well-adjusted! How do you do it??

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Damn right. But at least it gives me a chance to tell people to get help if they need it and not be afraid to do it because it somehow seems unmanly.

[–] TheRaven@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

I definitely read it as a warning. Oh right, that guy never went to therapy. I should book my next appointment.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Imagine the privilege, people that need therapy often cannot afford it. What an asshole.

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

maybe if he went to therapy his kids would still speak to him

[–] HRDS_654@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's weak to have a problem and deny it. Toxic masculinity is a show of weakness not strength.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Agree 100%. Sadly, we have people like Elon and Trump pushing toxic masculinity and so many men buy into it.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

With pretty much everything in human behaviour, if a person makes a grand show about how they're so , they're almost certainly overcompensating because deep down they themselves don't believe it.

[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's funny because, viewed at the correct angle, Elon's tweet is actually saying something truthful: if you don't get help, it'll be the reason you die an early death

[–] Chetzemoka@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Right? This tweet screams, "Be just like me! Avoid therapy and slowly lose everything in your life including the last shred of your dignity."

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The phrasing.

“Never went to therapy.”

Not “Never needed therapy.”

“Never went” implies you were supposed to go.

“What happened with therapy, Elon?”

“I never went.”

[–] vampire@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

“Never went” implies you were supposed to go.

since we are doing semantics, this is incorrect. "never went" does not imply anything

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Every single thing this man has ever said publicly has implied he's supposed to go.

[–] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

“What happened with therapy, Elon?”

“I never went.”

I'll bet that's a lie. I bet he went once, was called out on his bullshit, tried to outsmart the therapist who ran circles around him, and felt uncomfortably vulnerable. Then, instead of confronting his issues and doing the hard work, he decided that therapy was just woke bullshit that only """females""" need. Out of shame for either turning to therapy in the first place or failing at it, he boldly proclaimed this on his personal propaganda platform so that everyone would know what a genius, manly, alpha-male, gigachad he really is.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

literally the therapy scene in Succession where Logan Roy says "Everything I did, I did for my family," and is absolutely rocked when he doest "win" and the therapist doesn't instantly proclaim them cured.

[–] activ8r@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

The sad thing is there is a very real chance this is true and he won't ever get the help he needs.

[–] nascent@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

FYI- Jason Kander dropped out of politics to seek help for his PTSD. He now works to house homeless vets and help Afghans fleeing the Taliban. He's pretty badass IMO. https://martincitytelegraph.com/2024/02/18/whatever-happened-to-jason-kander-hes-been-operating-daring-rescues-overseas/

[–] rallatsc@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While he was in politics he also dropped some insanely good political ads. All around legend.

[–] Aleric@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That may be the most American political ad I've ever seen.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Cool! I knew nothing about him. Thanks for the background!

[–] BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The bravest/manliest thing one can say is "help"

It’s not giving up. It’s refusing giving up.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The masculine narrative goes something like "if you ask for help, you're too weak to achieve what you want and get your shit together by yourself"

I'd like to look at it from a different perspective. There's a lot we can reach on our own - but with a little push, we can do much greater things and end up being way better to ourselves and others. We also retain contact with society, combating narcissism and alienation that lets us down.

Wanna show how strong you are? You better not stand in the mud, then.

At the end of the day, it's the effect we cause on this world that matters, not whatever shit is in our heads. And for the former, you do need support.

[–] BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Elaborate it further: the biggest muscle growth is achieved with those 1-3 reps you need a workout buddy for, compared to those reps the other 40 are nothing.

[–] EtherWhack@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't one of the very few pathways for an ASD diagnosis through a psychologist. (i.e. therapy)

The guy went on SNL and told everyone that he has Asperger's Syndrome. So, he is either lying about that or never going to therapy.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He's self-diagnosed. He also thinks it excuses all of his awful behavior.

[–] nonfuinoncuro@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

tbf a lot of quirky "neurodivergent" tweens online are also self diagnosed and use it to justify their own selfish/immature behavior

the only difference is that you're supposed to be insufferable as an adolescent and you're supposed to grow up and out of it, not be proud you're in a perpetual state of arrested development well into middle age and beyond

[–] garth@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Therapy or no,
we all agree Elon can
eat a bag of dicks.

[–] cmrn@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Elon’s tweet is a great advertisement for therapy.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Narcissists rarely do, Elon.

[–] escaped_cruzader@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

If you have money you might be able to pay some therapist that you know and respect, but if you have cheap insurance, all your therapists will be young idiots who will be treating cigars a dicks...

I have a chip on my shoulder yes, my nephews therapist was an idiot

i talked to my therapist a few weeks ago at the end of a session, and he told me that narcissists seldom go to therapy - if they go, it's because they feel that everyone out there is wronging and belittling them.

they have low self-esteem, which doesn't feel good - but they can put others below them, which feels nice for them. it's a personal insult if someone else knows something better.

in the view of the narcissist, the therapist as a professional is insulting them every session, which results in them insulting and belittling the therapist. it takes years to make any progress.

i compared it to a garage project for tinkerers, something you don't expect to ever work - he loudly burst into laughter and agreed with my analysis.

I can't shake the feeling that Elon is a garage project for tinkerers.

[–] trips@yiffit.net 1 points 1 year ago

The most narcissistic people I have ever known in my life always refused to go to therapy. There is always a substitute whether it be zealotry or substance abuse. Knowing what I know about Elon, it's hardly surprising to me that he never went to therapy.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dudes with hair plugs don't get to therapy shame others.

[–] chetradley@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Nepo baby born with an emerald spoon in his mouth and spent his life failing upwards acts like therapy is a character flaw.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Too bad, definitely needs it.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

My first thought was "that explains a lot ".

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As long as he's dead he can have whatever he wants on his tombstone. I'll try to trace the letters with my piss. It'll be a fun game, and I'll help to keep my hydrated.

[–] vampire@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

do you actually do this sort of thing or are you all talk?

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Being more "manly" than Elon is a fairly low bar.

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bro has more gender confirming procedures then most trans women I've met.

[–] David_Eight@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Are you telling me Elongs hairline didn't magically come back through sheer masculinity ?

[–] Zakicade5549@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Going to therapy might help and if it doesn't, then at least you tried but if you think that therapy is for the weak, then you absolutely need to go for it.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

For those who might already think they know what their issue is it still helps to go and recognize it too.

For me, I already knew I was my own worst enemy, and all of my depression stems from my own incompetence and failure. Talking didn't help in that respect, failure is failure, but I least I know that it's not a "chemical imbalance" thing after trying meds, it's a "I hate being a joke of a human" thing lol