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I'll hazard a guess. It's because male culture and masculine values are fucked. Older men are lonely because they either cannot find friends, or already reached the conclusion it was time to both stop looking and lose the ones they had, for various reasons. Younger men left in a cultural vacuum are reinventing masculinity as a toxic caricature guided by the only affirming male role models they can find outside the home: social media influencers.
Meanwhile, the predominant message from the left, as observed in generalities and absent nuance, is all the ways having a Y chromosome makes you evil. With an apparent choice between self-flagellation and asserting a sense of inherent superiority as both an emotional shield and path to an in-group with shared values, I really can't say I'd choose any better in my younger, immature form.
So here we are, in 2025 where the battle of the sexes is now a political movement and even one that's quite happy to pick your side for you if you dare present ambiguously. We're just a little fashion subtlety away from wearing arm bands, either to declare for the feminists or the anti-woke, or just to dodge social conscription.
Meh people keep saying this, but this comes mostly from the right that likes to amplify the most fringe leftist stuff for rage bait. The predominant message from the left is that men need help. Leftist outlets, influencers, thinkers and communicators routinely try to bridge that gap, but the "fuck your feelings" crowd is only interested in hate-watching the tiktoks of a random punk saying that men are shit.
It's not just the right. It's anyone willing to associate systemic and natural (power imbalance) issues with some particular outgroup. Show me someone who doesn't do that and I'll show you someone who's a minority in every demographic they occupy.
Case in point: last I checked, it wasn't the "fuck your feelings" crowd that invented slogans like "eat the rich."
I did not say "it's just the right" so ...
I don't understand the point for which "eat the rich" is the case, nor what you mean with "natural issues". Yes, systemic issues are generally associated with a particular in-group and a particular out-group, that's how they tend to become systemic - oppression has a source and a target. And?
And at which point does messaging about the source of oppression stop guarding against the natural human inclination to substitute "source demographic" with "individual in that demographic?" Because that's all it takes -- both for bigotry to take root and for it to be perceived by those individuals. In pop culture terms, I have no idea when if ever it stopped. Regarding men specifically, I only witnessed it start half-heartedly/infrequently in the last few years.
Power imbalance is a natural systemic issue in so far as it sometimes having natural sources/root causes, but more importantly it's inherent propensity toward positive feedback loops.
"Eat the rich" is an example of messaging that has completely lost the plot of systemic issues while highlighting the outgroup and not coming only from fringe extremists. Sure, it means "redress socioeconomic inequality and impose greater fairness for all" but it sure doesn't say that. If it did, it wouldn't have the power and popularity that comes from appealing to the baser, target-hungry instincts of all humans.
So what's the issue, again? Just that it sounds scary?
Why is "eat the reach" messaging that "lost the plot" if the slogan does exactly what it's supposed to do (be powerful and popular, appealing to human nature)?
I don't know, you tell me. I don't see rich people getting the short end of a stick because out there a bunch of protestors are holding "eat the rich" plaques. I still don't quite get what's this phrase being used as an example for given it's so inconsequential.
Maybe sleep on it and try coming back with fresh eyes. I'm getting exhausted just looking at all the threads to pluck in this comment. And I sincerely mean no disrespect nor judgement, but seeing this conversation through is starting to look like more work than I'm personally willing to invest while I'm supposed to be on vacation.
lol fair enough, and it's perhaps a not very useful point to dwell anyway, it seems it was just an example