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As the article notes, the increase seems to be driven mainly by users in Asia, where recycling and reusing older hardware is quite common. I wonder if third-party companies are offering extended security patches there, which could make affordable second-hand Windows 7 machines more appealing for people who just need them for browsing or light tasks. It would certainly make sense given recent fiascos and Microsoft’s current stance on AI, especially with generative AI being used to develop system-level code.

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[–] radix@lemmy.world 190 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)
  • Windows 7 was used to browse more web pages on a subset of sites that use the Statcounter plugin, and mostly in one area of the world.

But that doesn't make a good headline.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Could it be that something is spoofing a Win7 signature?

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I personally just edited the registry to stop my Win10 upgrading to 11. If it fails, it's Manjaro time.

[–] kylian0087@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Manjaro might not be the best starting point tbh. So many better choices.

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's not that I'm disagreeing with you. I'm just not agreeing with you.

I personally think that (as unpopular an opinion as it may be) Flatpak's largely make the choice of first distro irrelevant. The weakness in Manjaro is that you either risk using the AUR or stay on old versions of the software. Or with Mint/Ubuntu/etc... you either risk adding random repos to your sources list or you use older versions of the software.

Either way, you run the risk of a new person mucking up their system with a bad repo or a bad aur package.

The alternative, using flatpaks, largely solves both issues for when you need newer versions of a certain software, and are dead simple to install/remove/update, etc...

And I say this as someone who was super skeptical of flatpak's for a very very long time.

[–] kylian0087@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 hours ago

The weakness in Manjaro is that you either risk using the AUR or stay on old versions of the software.

That is part of it yes. But Manjaro has so many other things specially new users will not expect and know how to fix, It is not a great starting point as they claim it is. From DDOS'ing the AUR to forcing users to rollback time because they let ssl certificates expire. their are many things they dont do right and for new users this can be a major turn of when they are hit with these issues. for a distro aiming to be arch but user friendly. And the user doesn't have to do anything weird for these things to happen just use your system as you would no AUR and update and break the system. this has happened so often with Manjaro that i would steer away from it unless you know how to manually fix those breakages. but at that point just use arch.

[–] xep@discuss.online 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you disable TPM in your bios, W11 won't install, nor update if it is already installed.

[–] Natanael 2 points 1 day ago

FYI if you have disk encryption enabled you need to pause/disable it first (assuming you're using automatic unlock using the TPM, which usually is the default)

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Still, it's unusual for that to happen.

[–] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 14 points 1 day ago

Ehh, bots have always presented nonsense UAs to servers. And since modern browsers hard-code the OS version in the UA string, pretending to be an old browser on an old OS could be a (probably ineffectual) way to bypass fingerprinting.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 days ago

I think that it's a possibility for the rest of the world.

[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world -5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thanks Microsoft spokesman.

Why is it that these scores are taken at face value until a corporation doesn't like them? What you think 4% of a random set of servers suddenly started using Windows 7 to bot pages to drum up Windows 7 support?

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Look at the data: https://gs.statcounter.com/windows-version-market-share/desktop/asia/#monthly-202408-202509

Or more specifically https://gs.statcounter.com/windows-version-market-share/desktop/singapore/#monthly-202408-202509

All the data is nice and smooth, slow rises or declines, as usual.

And then all of a sudden in July and only ins Singapore, Windows 7 goes from <2% to 92%. All other asian countries stay about the same.

Does this sound likely to you that 90% of users uninstall Win10 and Win11 in Singapore to install Win7 and all that in a span of just two months?

Or is it more likely that there's some bug (or some botnet) causing false stats?