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As the article notes, the increase seems to be driven mainly by users in Asia, where recycling and reusing older hardware is quite common. I wonder if third-party companies are offering extended security patches there, which could make affordable second-hand Windows 7 machines more appealing for people who just need them for browsing or light tasks. It would certainly make sense given recent fiascos and Microsoft’s current stance on AI, especially with generative AI being used to develop system-level code.

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[–] kepix@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

win7, my beloved. that uxtheme.dll got patched so many times...

[–] DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 11 points 10 hours ago

I don’t get why people prefer to go to an unsafe version of windows instead of trying Linux. Nowadays there is many friendly distro.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 9 points 10 hours ago

Its so dumb. Linux is the only way to actually get out from under the thumb of Microsoft and its so easy these days to switch.

[–] polle@feddit.org 15 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

A friend of mine was still on win7 and just recently made the switch to linux. In the end the issue was that most of the software stopped working.

[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 3 points 12 hours ago

I hated when software didn't work on Windows. After switching to Linux my mouse, keyboard, monitor, hard drive, OS, and software don't work 😂

(this comment is a joke I love 🐧)

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

I still have my old Win7 pro disk with unlimited installs :p

I didn't think i would ever use it, but I'm also not ever gonna use win11, so maybe upgrading from 10 to 7 will be my plan for my windows needs if they are both gonna be insecure anyway.

7 is just the best OS Microsoft has made, it's been downhill since.

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (4 children)

They should make a Windows version called Windows 10P which is the same as Windows 10 but only the bare-bones necessities and no extra crap or required online services, and sell it for $59.99 (seeing that Windows is already de facto freeware). That's probably an order of magnitude than what they make from intrusive advertising anyway to a single user over the lifespan of a computer.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 17 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

This already exists, and it doesn't cost $60. What you want is the Windows 10 IoT LTSC Edition.

https://massgrave.dev/.

(Brought to you by Carl's, Jr.)

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

I use this on my DJ laptop. It's nice because it doesn't constantly bother you with bullshit, and is extremely stable.

Anyone still stuck on 10 who isn't ready for Linux just yet should give LTSC a try. You'll probably like it. It's not going away anytime soon, either, because it is used in mission critical things like ATMs and cash registers that need to just work without being bothered with constant updates and reboots nor being bombarded with ads.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No way they will do that. The value for microsoft these days is in harvesting their victims info and forcing them in to their walled garden.

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Walled garden? Windows? Do you even understand what a “walled garden” is?

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

They have been trying to force a microsoft accounts on everyone. I know what a walled garden is and when Microsoft looks at apples they are jealous. Remember S mode? The shitbox machines microsoft pushed out that could only use their app store. That is the end goal for them. They just can't sell it.

My current problem is keeping copilot and recall off of our public computers. People are using them and want them clear of spyware and intrusive monitoring. You can not really get rid of any of the microsoft software since they now cache it on the computer. Anytime someone new logs in it puts 365 and copilot on their profile. If you delete it from the cache its back the next update cycle. They have begun putting notepad and basic programs in the cache. So you can't just kill it by making the cache path inaccessible. They are gearing up to close off all holes and force their app store onto everyone. They are working toward a walled garden where everyone has a microsoft account.

So maybe you don't know what a walled garden is? You don't understand that they have everything in place to lock out any third party software. They have recall, a huge security risk to train up their AI's. You can't believe anything they say about it. I know this because I've been around since the dos floppies had the IBM logo on them.

They have a unmanageable cache of software downloading without consent that uses their app store and if you kill it with a gpo you start having problems with basic functions. They killed wsus because it could be used to lock out their garbage. Despite operating in a domain environment I still see messages on accounts urging people to link a microsoft account.

So please tell me about what I know or don't know.

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

You don’t know that a walled garden requires them to lock you in to only install from their store, while windows lets you install anything you want however you want. While S mode exists, it’s never going to be the only mode because people need legacy win32 programs and all sorts of custom programs. Microsoft know that removing that ability will destroy Windows, which is why they haven’t.

Copilot has options to not collect data etc. copilot and recall are completely optional - you don’t have to use them. They’re not “spyware”.

I’ve been around since floppy disks too. You should know better than what you just wrote if you have been around this long.

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[–] morphballganon@mtgzone.com 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Computers that are too new for Windows 7 come with Windows 10 preinstalled on them though. Who would buy an extra copy? You can debloat Windows 10 with a debloater tool

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

People who build their own computers, AKA the group most likely to complain about this

[–] jaxxed@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

It would be of lower value to them without the data-gathering and the AI injection.

The data makes them money. The AI helps th justify their investment, but also gives them data to ad to their models.

[–] SleafordMod@feddit.uk 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nobody should be using old versions of Windows that no longer get security updates. Either switch to Linux and install all of the latest security updates, or enable the coming year of security updates on Windows 10, or run Windows 11.

[–] BCBoy911@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Agree for a main computer but there's no risk when using Windows 7 or XP on an offline machine.

[–] filcuk@lemmy.zip 7 points 19 hours ago

If it were offline machines, then they wouldn't be on these statistics

[–] SleafordMod@feddit.uk 5 points 1 day ago

Fair point, I guess some people might want to do that to play old games or something like that.

[–] rozodru@piefed.social 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

within the past month? what all these people in Asia suddenly found a stockpile of machines with Win7 on them and all, collectively, decided "yeah lets just use these"?

I don't buy it.

It is spoofed someone wants people to thinks it it Windows 7.

[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

It's almost as if there's a demand for meat and potatoes OS.

[–] radix@lemmy.world 190 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)
  • Windows 7 was used to browse more web pages on a subset of sites that use the Statcounter plugin, and mostly in one area of the world.

But that doesn't make a good headline.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Could it be that something is spoofing a Win7 signature?

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I personally just edited the registry to stop my Win10 upgrading to 11. If it fails, it's Manjaro time.

[–] kylian0087@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Manjaro might not be the best starting point tbh. So many better choices.

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's not that I'm disagreeing with you. I'm just not agreeing with you.

I personally think that (as unpopular an opinion as it may be) Flatpak's largely make the choice of first distro irrelevant. The weakness in Manjaro is that you either risk using the AUR or stay on old versions of the software. Or with Mint/Ubuntu/etc... you either risk adding random repos to your sources list or you use older versions of the software.

Either way, you run the risk of a new person mucking up their system with a bad repo or a bad aur package.

The alternative, using flatpaks, largely solves both issues for when you need newer versions of a certain software, and are dead simple to install/remove/update, etc...

And I say this as someone who was super skeptical of flatpak's for a very very long time.

[–] kylian0087@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago

The weakness in Manjaro is that you either risk using the AUR or stay on old versions of the software.

That is part of it yes. But Manjaro has so many other things specially new users will not expect and know how to fix, It is not a great starting point as they claim it is. From DDOS'ing the AUR to forcing users to rollback time because they let ssl certificates expire. their are many things they dont do right and for new users this can be a major turn of when they are hit with these issues. for a distro aiming to be arch but user friendly. And the user doesn't have to do anything weird for these things to happen just use your system as you would no AUR and update and break the system. this has happened so often with Manjaro that i would steer away from it unless you know how to manually fix those breakages. but at that point just use arch.

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[–] carrylex@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago
[–] Luci@lemmy.ca 85 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It’s okay, Windows 10 will be the last version of Windows you’ll need!!!

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 80 points 1 day ago (20 children)

It was. Linux Mint has been beautiful since I switched last year. Certainly nicer than windows.

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[–] Kailn@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 1 day ago

So more ppl are re-purposing old, legacy win7 machines despite security risk...
Completely clueless about anything linux or floss in that matter wether even if there where lighter distros with better hardware support & enough apps for everyday office needs & more.

Like win7 can't even run any UWP apps, photoshop or steam anymore.
It's great livin' in 2025

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 60 points 1 day ago

Possibly from people booting up 15 year old laptops to see if they‘re still running so they can install linux on them before trying it on the big machine. Yes, this is my made up narrative but I believe that more than in a Win7 comeback.

[–] TaterTot@piefed.social 31 points 1 day ago

Year of the Windows 7 Desktop?!

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