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[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 25 points 1 day ago (6 children)

The best electric busses have electric lines overhead, so you don't need big batteries.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Then you need to cable all the roads of bits networks. That seems expensive. Incidentally the tram line my city is building will be battery powered for part of its route, as they're not allowed to string pantograph wires in one area. It's mostly on wires

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 18 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

It’s never enough for you people.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 11 points 22 hours ago

People love to let the perfect be the enemy of the good. They oppose incremental progress and preserve the status quo as a result.

[–] Lag@lemmy.world 9 points 23 hours ago

Everything converges into either crabs or trains.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

It's not about being enough. Battery powered busses are very expensive and baterries need replacement and maintenance. Trolley buses are a cheaper investment in the long term. So it's frustrating when new projects choose baterry buses instead of trolley buses. It always feels like corruption to me.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

Trolley are better in a lot of cases, but not in all of the cases.

[–] Verdorrterpunkt@feddit.org 11 points 1 day ago

Trolley busses are also much better for steep inclines!

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

A lot less versatile and a lot more disruptive to the community.

Not entirely against them but I dont have them a the gold standard.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 0 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Kinda hard to do that in the suburbs.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Strong disagree. If you have telephone poles by the road, the power is already there

[–] psud@aussie.zone 2 points 13 hours ago

Power poles in the suburbs here (Canberra) run along back fences, they only exist near the road where they cross a road

Sydney might be able to hang wires over the road from it's power poles; no idea if the poles are up to it

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

No telephone poles anywhere near my house. Only along main roads at least 30 mins walk away.

All the household electrical wiring, internet, cable TV, telephone, natural gas, and water services are underground.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl -1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

So yeah...power is already there

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah and it’ll cost millions to tear up the roads and install overhead wires for the bus, just to service 1 neighbourhood out of hundreds, where hardly anyone uses public transit as it is.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

hardly anyone uses public transit as it is

Well, that's kind of the problem we're trying to fix here

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 1 points 11 minutes ago

There are lots of people who use public transit in my city, they just don’t live in the suburbs.

[–] someacnt@sh.itjust.works 0 points 23 hours ago

But.. But think about the battery megacorps!