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I'm only 4 months into Linux, and apt is my comfort zone. Checking out other distros that use something else has me running away like:
pacman is very fast and handy. The (in)famous
pacman -Syuhad you system completely up to date in record time.Sometimes I miss its speed and simplicity
And here's me with my
yayzypper dupparu entered the chat (doesn't even need -Syu).
I love paru, but I think my favorite thing about it is that it isn't yay.
Back when i started using Arch Yay was mega popular so I tried it. Its great, I loved it, shouldn't be a surprise I love paru too. But Yay was always my only Go app, so I'd end up installing Golag, which is gigantic, just to use yay.
YSK/PSA: If you're on Mint, Mint's
aptis not Debian'saptand while they work similarly for common use cases, they diverge pretty quickly beyond that. Both are installed by default but Mint's takes precedence.*Case in point: I was looking for which package - specifically one that was not yet installed - contains a certain command line tool and Mint's
apt searchdoes not find it. Debian's does. **On the other hand, Mint's
apthas way more subcommands than the default one, which have been useful on occasion.* Mint's is at
/usr/local/bin/aptand Debian's is at/usr/bin/apt; The default user$PATHputs/usr/local/binbefore/usr/bin.** FWIW, the tool is/was
spongeand it's in themoreutilspackage.Just use aptitude and be happy.
Disclaimer: while aptitude was originally designed to replicate the apt CLI interface, I have never run the search command through it. The TUI is marvelous, though.
Nowadays apt supports deleting dangling config files with
apt purge "~c"so no need to have aptitude for that feature. However,aptitude why <package>is pretty handy, and if you bump into dependency problems aptitude is quite capable of suggesting valid solutions.Disclaimer: I've never used aptitude's TUI.
I wonder why apt search on ubuntu and debian must be so bad: on mint each package has a single line and an easy letter telling you if the program is installed or not. On debian/ubuntu each program takes multiple lines, are all green and the only way to distinguish installed ones is to look for an (installed) string at the end of the first line. I like Mint's apt version so much
dpkg -l | grep ^ii
(and then cry (this step is non-optional))
I wonder how this is implemented in LMDE?
LMDE's system is the same as regular Mint. I've been on LMDE for a few years but was on regular before that.
You can basically take that statement and replace โaptโ with โwhatever the first package tool I usedโ and it would be true for anyone.
tell me you have never run slackware witout telling me you have never run slackware.
I started with Ubuntu in the days of apt-get, and boy am I happy I got to use packman now and never add another custom repository ever again
My first package manager was YaST, then RPM, then APT. Apt rules, and while Iโve tried some more, Iโm not afraid to say APT became my comfort zone.
don't let this type of bantering concern you
we are all just splitting hairs and knocking each other's preferences when it is basically trivial. Like BMW and Mercedes drivers trying to one up who drives the superior German car
Thatโs easy Mercedes hasnโt made the superior car since the 80โs
I use eMacs by the way.
You seem to have misspelled vim.
sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade -y
=
sudo dnf update -y
For most systems. If you can get apt you can get any of them.
The feds don't want you to know this but you can just put "-U" at the end of
sudo apt upgradeand it updates before upgrading.what the fuck
If they are suppressing this, what else arenโt they telling us
Yup. Must be. No "-U" found in
man apt.(Is there in
man apt-getthough. And it works on both.).And it does not show up in fish's option completion options on either, either.
Near 20 years of having been using
apt-get(and later,apt), if I ever knew this, I forgot. Could have been doing just one command all this time.vim has a built-in autocomplete you can use by pressing ctrl-n during interactive mode.
I should really get around to RTFM.
This gif makes me irrationally angry.
I almost used this godzilla gif to illustrate my point instead. Maybe you'll enjoy it more.
See, now why did you have to ruin these last few days of peace for me like that?
For me, pacman is my comfort zone. Fast, reliable and easy to handle. But apt was it for a long time as well.
Don't panic, apt+flatpak does everything very well, if all you need is a working computer. If you need a hobby, try nix or guix
Or for the ultimate hobby to dedicate to,
cave.(Prizes for any who even know which package manager and distro that's from.)
Exactly what I feel when I look or have to interact with anything that doesn't have pacman ๐
I have to admit that I love the "pacman" pun quite a bit, which is nearly enough by itself to convince me to try it. One day. Maybe.
I canโt lie, thatโs one of the reasons I moved over to CachyOS a few months back. Itโs not the only reason, but itโs been my favourite distro for sure that Iโve tried. Itโs the first one that really felt good to me.
It's really a great distro, I've been using it fulltime on laptop and PC for over a year. Best one I've tried so far and for some reason it's less buggy than EndeavourOS was for me. The only thing I don't like about it is the name.