this post was submitted on 09 Jan 2026
515 points (99.4% liked)

Europe

8440 readers
626 users here now

News and information from Europe ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ

(Current banner: La Mancha, Spain. Feel free to post submissions for banner images.)

Rules (2024-08-30)

  1. This is an English-language community. Comments should be in English. Posts can link to non-English news sources when providing a full-text translation in the post description. Automated translations are fine, as long as they don't overly distort the content.
  2. No links to misinformation or commercial advertising. When you post outdated/historic articles, add the year of publication to the post title. Infographics must include a source and a year of creation; if possible, also provide a link to the source.
  3. Be kind to each other, and argue in good faith. Don't post direct insults nor disrespectful and condescending comments. Don't troll nor incite hatred. Don't look for novel argumentation strategies at Wikipedia's List of fallacies.
  4. No bigotry, sexism, racism, antisemitism, islamophobia, dehumanization of minorities, or glorification of National Socialism. We follow German law; don't question the statehood of Israel.
  5. Be the signal, not the noise: Strive to post insightful comments. Add "/s" when you're being sarcastic (and don't use it to break rule no. 3).
  6. If you link to paywalled information, please provide also a link to a freely available archived version. Alternatively, try to find a different source.
  7. Light-hearted content, memes, and posts about your European everyday belong in other communities.
  8. Don't evade bans. If we notice ban evasion, that will result in a permanent ban for all the accounts we can associate with you.
  9. No posts linking to speculative reporting about ongoing events with unclear backgrounds. Please wait at least 12 hours. (E.g., do not post breathless reporting on an ongoing terror attack.)
  10. Always provide context with posts: Don't post uncontextualized images or videos, and don't start discussions without giving some context first.

(This list may get expanded as necessary.)

Posts that link to the following sources will be removed

Unless they're the only sources, please also avoid The Sun, Daily Mail, any "thinktank" type organization, and non-Lemmy social media (incl. Substack). Don't link to Twitter directly, instead use xcancel.com. For Reddit, use old:reddit:com

(Lists may get expanded as necessary.)

Ban lengths, etc.

We will use some leeway to decide whether to remove a comment.

If need be, there are also bans: 3 days for lighter offenses, 7 or 14 days for bigger offenses, and permanent bans for people who don't show any willingness to participate productively. If we think the ban reason is obvious, we may not specifically write to you.

If you want to protest a removal or ban, feel free to write privately to the primary mod account @EuroMod@feddit.org

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Granted, the part

The globally recommended app by privacy and security experts, Signal, is now being downloaded massively and tops the Danish Google Play Store

is a little ironic, but you gotta push this winning tide and then work from that.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[โ€“] VisionScout@lemmy.wtf 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[โ€“] Wrdlbrmpfd@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Tox is not really great for multi-device, is it?

[โ€“] VisionScout@lemmy.wtf 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

no. But if you mean independent access with various devices, neither signal is since you need always the phone to access the desktop version.

[โ€“] Wrdlbrmpfd@feddit.org 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Thats why I personally prefer Matrix.

However, the solution that Signal offers is the easiest for most people. Also it is not true that you always need the phone. The desktop version works fine alone unlike Whatsapp it doesn't request you to connect the devices all 2 weeks. It does need a first installation on a Mobile or Android device in order to get the PC version running.

The difficulty is when you need to exchange the encryption keys between different clients. This is where it gets complicated with Tox and Jabber/OTR. And to be honest the solution of Matrix is easier but also can get confusing for people who are just used to having a phone as their main device.

[โ€“] VisionScout@lemmy.wtf 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

It does need a first installation on a Mobile or Android device in order to get the PC version running.

I stand correct.

And to be honest the solution of Matrix is easier

What is the matrix solution for that? Keys will always have to be exchanged between devices

[โ€“] Wrdlbrmpfd@feddit.org 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I stand correct.

Yes, but fact is, that this is the easiest way for most users. And also most users don't care if you can use it stand alone on a PC or not, and if it is linked to a phone number or not.

What is the matrix solution for that? Keys will always have to be exchanged between devices

You can use devices to cross-sign each other or use a passphrase.

[โ€“] VisionScout@lemmy.wtf 1 points 16 hours ago

You can use devices to cross-sign each other or use a passphrase.

nice