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Granted, the part

The globally recommended app by privacy and security experts, Signal, is now being downloaded massively and tops the Danish Google Play Store

is a little ironic, but you gotta push this winning tide and then work from that.

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[–] Muffi@programming.dev 112 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I am from Denmark. I have spent the last 10 years fighting to get schools and government institutions to switch away from American software.

What a waste of time, when all it takes is the threat of an imperialist take-over of Greenland to actually get my fellow countrymen to finally listen and act.

[–] Quantillion@mstdn.io 2 points 1 day ago

@Muffi @Novocirab
Same. This applies to EVERY non-US country!!
I can't believe that the EU, France, UK, Spain, Italy etc. do not have their own comprehensive Fedi servers for their own institutions, govt departments & citizens! ALL still relying on US tech.

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 48 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Signal is still centralized US software.

[–] Mucki@feddit.org 46 points 3 days ago (16 children)

It is the least evil for the ignorant technology end user.

[–] Wrdlbrmpfd@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago

Concerning the usability, yes. Otherwise Matrix would be the best option, it can be hosted locally.

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[–] Muffi@programming.dev 13 points 3 days ago

True. I was more referring to the fact that nobody has wanted to move away from Meta, Google and Microsoft solutions because of convenience (until now).

[–] Vincent@feddit.nl 9 points 3 days ago (14 children)

But at least the US government can't listen in on your conversations, and if they don't know your phone number, can't block your specific communications either.

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[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Italian in Denmark here.

I thank you so much for this! I am amazed at the dependence of all facets of social life and information on Meta and Google's properties.

I am cut out of my building's initiatives because I don't have a Facebook account. There are no events (such as dance events, protests, etc) published anywhere else than on Facebook's Events.

When I propose to be contacted on Signal people look at me as if I was an alien.

You are doing God's work, as a Christian would say.

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 82 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Kinda ironic that if the danish representatives in the EU got their way with chat control, danish people wouldn't even be able to install signal (officially at least), since Signal said they would leave the EU in such a case.

[–] dzsimbo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 3 days ago

I'm pretty sure this isn't irony, but rather a reaction from the population that is realizing the shit their government is doing.

[–] Alph4d0g@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 3 days ago (12 children)

Meshtastic. Let’s get some critical mass. Get single points of trust out of the equation.

[–] paulcdb@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Sadly Meshtastic is limited to the number of nodes it'll go through (think it was 7) so pretty limited. MeshCore goes up to something like 64 so is better but still both have huge limitations right now besides the 'no nodes around me' issue.

still, I have some MeshCore nodes and hopefully get 1 fairly high up when I can afford the Β£100 to buy it but its a lot to waste when no-one around here is interested.

[–] percent 1 points 2 days ago

IIRC, I looked into Meshtastic a while back, and it was known to be unreliable. Is that still the case? It seems like a really cool concept

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[–] Drekaridill@lemmy.wtf 29 points 3 days ago (3 children)

That is one fucked up looking flag

[–] falseWhite@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

Mashup of Greenland and Denmark flags with signal logo added for some reason.

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[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

From one american service to another american service? Good job m'Danes, that'll show'em.

Less flippantly though, Signal is a better american service, and incremental improvements are good too.

[–] comrade_twisty@feddit.org 25 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Unfortunately Threema the European alternative that’s at least as secure as Signal costs money - and that one time fee is enough to send everyone to Signal.

[–] Kissaki@feddit.org 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Imagine EU sponsoring a messaging app as part of public infrastructure.

[–] comrade_twisty@feddit.org 4 points 2 days ago

Great Idea. It will probably be called ChatControlsEU and every message is archived and data mined at the Bavarian police departments Palantir instance.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 34 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It's also not open source.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 34 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The Threema client is open-source. Which is about the same as with Signal, who release partial open-source code of their server, but it is impossible to actually use.

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[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 24 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

If only the threat didn't (also) come from inside the house when it comes to privacy. I don't want my national police to have full access to my chats at all times any more than I want the USians to have that access, possibly even less. FBI or CIA isn't going to personally bust down my front door, arrest me and seize all my computing devices because I called a local politician a dick.

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