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Prof. Jeffrey Sachs argues that the world may already be entering the early stages of World War III, as the rapidly escalating conflict involving Iran begins...

Crosspost from https://lemmygrad.ml/post/10943030

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[–] kbal@fedia.io 22 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Glenn Diesen, huh. Nothing wrong with watching it if you want to, but be aware that everything said will be fully compatible with Russian propaganda.

[–] lena@gregtech.eu 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Jeffrey Sachs is a Russian propagandist as well. I'm not surprised this was posted on lemmygrad

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 5 days ago

A lie spreads quickly, but the truth endures. Jeffrey Sachs is simply a Western lib who found some conscience, and reactionaries have nothing but empty accusations.

Glenn Diesen

Birth name: Glenntropher Diesenutts

[–] plyth@feddit.org 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

everything said will be fully compatible with Russian propaganda.

Could as well mean that the truth is labeled as Russian propaganda or that Russian propaganda is closer to the truth than American propaganda.

What matters are facts. What is wrong and what are the biggest lies that he is spreading?

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Could as well mean that the truth is labeled as Russian propaganda or that Russian propaganda is closer to the truth than American propaganda.

Eh, until you ask them how their own war of choice in Ukraine is going.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 0 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It's different than the numbers in the west. Which source can be trusted as an objective truth to know how much each side is off?

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 3 points 4 days ago

It's pretty wild seeing Jeffrey Sachs called a Russian propagandist. Wikipedia credits him as the architect of "shock therapy" that undermined Russian economy.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The numbers are anybody's guess, and even they probably don't know for sure.

But I'm talking about things like Russia claiming they had taken a specific town, and then Zelesnky posting a video of himself walking around in that town. Pretty clear which one is objective truth in cases like that.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 days ago

Russia does very little of this, and much less than Ukrainian denials of reality. Mostly the front lines that Russia claims are reality. Definitely no example of a highly contested town that Zelensky walked through.

[–] kbal@fedia.io 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I didn't watch this video, so I dunno what lies are being spread in this case. Russian propaganda is a vast playground of sculpted bullshit, with a wide variety of sights to see. They're much better at it than the Americans. In the video I did watch recently, not realizing at first what it was, they were going with the general theme that the USA is totally going to lose the war against Iran. Why youtube's recommendations algorithm started trying to tempt me with this stuff all the time lately I have no idea.

These videos might be useful for finding out what the Russian propaganda machine wants you to believe, but not for anything else.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They’re much better at it than the Americans.

Why? Couldn't America be so good that people don't notice?

they were going with the general theme that the USA is totally going to lose the war against Iran.

After Vietnam and Afghanistan that's reasonable to assume. The interesting part is the discussion about why America doesn't care.

Why youtube’s recommendations algorithm started trying to tempt me with this stuff all the time lately I have no idea.

Interesting, isn't it? Why would a US company offer Russian propaganda?

These videos might be useful for finding out what the Russian propaganda machine wants you to believe

What's your argument for Diesen being part of the machine and not neutral?

[–] kbal@fedia.io 1 points 4 days ago

Why? Couldn't America be so good that people don't notice?

Hahaha — no. Well, some people, some of the time. Americans have more flavours to choose from. If you're genuinely ignorant of the basics of all this stuff, I don't even know what to recommend. Good luck out there.

[–] KnitWit@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

Similar to what the other responder said, I don’t onow who Glenn Diesen is, but you could replace Jeffrey Sachs name in your statement and it would be equally true.

[–] MerryJaneDoe@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The only way to get to the truth is to listen to everyone's bullshit narratives and try to pick out the grain of truth in each. This has always been the case, throughout human history.

[–] ChristerMLB@piefed.social 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don't think that's true. If you're properly critical of your sources, and a ton of statements can safely be ignored. And that's a good thing too, since it's also not possible to be closely familiar with absolutely all narratives. There's a lot of them.

[–] MerryJaneDoe@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

I should not have used the phrase "everyone's narratives". I was referring more to tribalism.

So, for example, when we start analyzing the US-Iran hostilities, we can't trust any narrative that comes out of either the US or Iran. Recently, a school was hit by a US missile and children died, it tugged my heartstrings. I felt outrage. But then someone pointed out that the report of dead children could be a psy-op by Iran. Ok, fair point. Time to withhold judgement and check other sources for more information. In this case, it seems that the report was tragically genuine.