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[–] markz@suppo.fi 346 points 1 week ago (21 children)

Now gimme one without smart tv bullshit

[–] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 117 points 1 week ago (4 children)

They exist, but they're called commercial monitors

[–] tyler@programming.dev 64 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Are there gaming screens like that though? Cause I thought commercial monitors were all slow response.

[–] thejml@sh.itjust.works 39 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I've got a 43" Aorus 4k gaming screen for my desktop. 144Hz, freesync, 2 HDMI's a DisplayPort and a USBC. There is a 48" OLED as well, but I didn't have the space for it at the time.

After using a 4k 43" for a monitor for a few years, I definitely both recommend it AND wish companies would make 8k ones.

[–] BygoneNeutrino@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Does anything useful even come in 8K at this point? I saw it as a spec last time I went television shopping, but it seemed like something that wouldn't be useful for another decade.

[–] Krudler@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

8k is effectively dead

[–] arcine@jlai.lu 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

8K was always a lie. It's impossible to tell the difference from 4K unless you're too close, 4K already has more pixels than your eyes do.

[–] swab148@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 week ago

Technically, all TVs have more pixels than your eyes do

[–] Anivia@feddit.org 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

4k is about 8 million pixels. The human eye has a resolution of about 576 million "pixels" .

I know what you mean with your comment, but the way you expressed it is factually incorrect

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[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

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[–] thejml@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

Honestly, nah. The screen is awesome, don't get me wrong, but the fact that I had to replace the main board after 1.5yrs, just out of warranty, means I definitely recommend people don't buy it. Luckily I found someone on eBay that dropped theirs, shattered the screen, and sold the internal boards for $50 shipped.

I only brought it up because it fits the requirements and I recommend the format. 4k 43"+ or 8k is goated on desktop.

[–] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (3 children)

He should have said commerical displays, which are basically TV's rated for long continuous use e.g. digital signage.

I haven't dealt with them in some time, but I would imagine many, if not most, do not include consumer smart tv features, although they probably have other embedded smart tech to help with stuff like signage.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 3 points 1 week ago

No I understand he’s talking about displays, I think I must have backspaced that and undid it at some point. But those commercial displays are not built with fast response rates because they’re literally just built to display one image at a time. Using them for gaming would suck.

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[–] markz@suppo.fi 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

But do commercial monitors make good tvs?

[–] e461h@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago

Yes & they last longer

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[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Great now gimme one that's reasonably priced

[–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 6 points 1 week ago

Check b stock.

Typically its scratch & dent, sometimes demo or trade show use.

Still gets a warranty (which is better on commercial in most cases), and usually a pretty sizable discount. If you can find a local distributor, they will sometimes sell off prior year stock for a really good price.

[–] FG_3479@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Any TV which lets you skip Wi-Fi in the setup can be a dumb TV. Most smart TVs except Roku/Fire TV let you.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca 58 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (32 children)

The smart TV part is conceptually okay, but the bullshit is unspeakable. I actually like that TVs have apps for the streaming services and stuff, if they didn't have to be evil about how they implement it. But they're evil, so here we all are, wanting completely dumb TVs.

[–] badgermurphy@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't really agree that is conceptually okay. TVs and computers have drastically different life cycles. That TV will still be kicking probably a decade after the internal Smart TV computer is uselessly underpowered. This same problem is arguably even worse with cars.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I don't agree. I don't need my TV to keep up with the latest software like I do my computer. I'd like it to load apps for the streaming services and search YouTube videos. If it can do that today, it can do that five years from now.

[–] Verat@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

But if a codec change or such happens (like to AV1 or h.265), it might not, we have an older 4k smart tv (Sharp Aquos LC-60UE30U) that can't handle 4k streaming without dropping to single digit fps.

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[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

You could accomplish that with a streamer though. The new ones even have IR and can act as universal remotes. This negates the detriment to not having it built into the tv.

Then when it's out of date you replace a 100$ streamer and not a 1000$ tv.

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[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

Every invention this century....

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[–] artyom@piefed.social 10 points 1 week ago

I bought a 48" OLED "monitor" that has none.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Yes.

Hate turning mine on and having to reset the input every single time because they're trying to annoy me into connecting it to wireless.

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