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[–] joaomarrom@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

y'all

I'm not one for inspecting people's language choices and I'm not even from the US, so I don't have a dog in this race... but goddamn, libs using y'all annoys me to no end

Edit: I should have been clearer here. There's lots of varieties of US English which use y'all and that's obviously natural, it's just that I've seen lots of wannabe DC staffer coastal lib types using it in a way that feels kinda condescending and annoying

[–] MovingThrowaway@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's a normal part of speech in like half of statesian dialects, including AAVE

Having grown up with it I honestly think it's weirder not to have a gender-neutral second-person pleural pronoun.

[–] joaomarrom@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah! What drives me nuts is that some libs like using it as a kind of folksy affectation, but I might be reading too much into it

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I get ya, funny enough, I feel the same way about "folks". Maybe we just need to start saying "Comrade" publicly instead.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

Maybe we just need to start saying "Comrade" publicly instead.

You should have seen the labour party conferences (televised) during Corbyn's party leadership.

Here's a supercut https://streamable.com/vbi0l4

I feel the same way about “folks,” ironically it kinda feels like the liberal version of “comrade” in that they both feel like cosplay

[–] MovingThrowaway@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

I like comrade having connotations of communist tho, I hope that doesn't get generalized.

[–] FanonFan@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's occasionally a tinge of white liberal urban superiority complex when people from the coasts use it, for sure.

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Embrace your inner Philadelphian

Embrace "yous"

[–] FanonFan@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

Paul "Yous'll" Muad'Dib Atreides

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

Some cunning linguist could definitely do something interesting investigating the "dialects" of political parties or movements, like a spiritual successor to Victor Klemperer's LTI.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

y'all

I grew up in the in the SF Bay Area and at the time when I was a kid to me Marin county was the most "typical" place in California. By "typical" I mean liberal. That was a million years ago back then politics was purely adult stuff. Kids never bothered with and didn't give a crap about.

Now - many decades later - when I'm trying to get the voice right of the most liberal person possible - I try to imagine what a wine mom (Or a wine dad. A micro-brew beer dad?) in a house costing many millions would say on the net as she sipped a $300 wine. Of course - nobody in Marin is going to use y'all in speech. It's as foreign to them as talking to an actual leftist.

Y'all in rich white lib online usage is a patronizing "folksy" word to get the moronic hoi polloi to understand the realities of politics in the real world. Compromise must be the order of the day because blah blah blah blah blah...

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Ninja edit

I error checked my humor format - haha. I haven't lived in California for decades. I wanted to see how rich Marin County actually is. Yeap - I'll keep my Marin country wine mom for reference.

10 Richest Counties in California (2023) | PropertyClub

  1. Santa Clara County
  2. San Mateo County
  3. Marin County
  4. San Francisco County
  5. Alameda County
  6. Contra Costa County
  7. Orange County
  8. Placer County
  9. Napa County
  10. Santa Cruz County
[–] axont@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I keep seeing y'all discourse. I grew up in the south and the word is used by everyone as part of the typical dialect. Maybe it's an affectation in some parts of the country but it's just a normal word where I'm from.

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago

That's because you're from the South and Southern American English and Appalachian English are the two biggest dialects that normally use y'all.