Got 395 responses using BeautifulSoup and sorting by old/new like you (@kristina@hexbear.net) said.
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Got 395 responses using BeautifulSoup and sorting by old/new like you (@kristina@hexbear.net) said.
Some people were not cis and did not identify with the words 'transgender' or 'gender diverse'. If I ever do a trans/adjacent survey again, I think I will ask 'Are you cis?'
I know at least one inter person who identifies as cis in spite of medically transitioning. I think the best way to poll gender diversity is if you have trans, inter, nonbinary, questioning and a freeform field for "other" all as not mutually exclusive boxes you can tick.
yeah, tallying that by hand sounds like a nightmare unfortunately.
CW sorry if I say something the wrong way or just wrong, obviously I don't know much about this
Don't many intersex conditions lean pretty far towards one or the other? Like if someone who has hyposadias and identifies as male gets surgery to have a "regular" penis, it makes sense that he'd identify as cis.
Or do you mean more like someone with hypospadias getting penile inversion surgery?
i just think it's neat!
I'm not a hat
not with that attitude you're not
also i just realized that if i sorted by old i could have gotten the whole data set (i got 300 out of 420ish responses). rip. if anyone else wants to take a gander at it, feel free, im too drunk at this point. its probably roughly the same result, though.
Hell yeah
What is gender diverse?
I may be what that is, but I want to make sure I have the right definition.
I am definitely autigender or genderqueer, I feel.
It's anything that isn't part of the cis man and cis woman gender binary. Sounds to me like you're a yes.
thanks
I'll consider that
Does "active Hexbear users" mean this is being compared against a more general metric of site-wide user activity, or is it treating the total responses in the survey post as the amount of active users?
We have a very good sample for active hexbear users/commentors, basically. If you wanted it to be more scientific you need your own polling service, ask many different questions that are basically the same thing, and poll over a longer period of time.
With this limited setup though we can get a fairly good view of the general trends of the active userbase that posts and replies Wednesday through Saturday morning, as we surveyed about 1/3rd of them.
If we made multiple surveys with the same methodology over a long period of time we could speak for the general hexbear population (re people that have gone inactive or semiactive) much better.
If you want to get an idea of how much self-selection is skewing results, one option is to compare the proportions of various pronouns tags of those who answered, versus active users who did not. Not a great measure, but it'll give you a basic idea. That's assuming that pronoun tags are kept.
Suggesting pronouns tags because that's a relatively fixed and measurable quantity that mostly preserves anonymity of answers. another potential option is measuring activity quantiles for like comment and vote counts between answers and active population
If we made multiple surveys with the same methodology over a long period of time we could speak for the general hexbear population (re people that have gone inactive or semiactive) much better.
active Hexbear users
Im a hexbear user but not actively practising, i only post in holy days like 911 and kissenger's death anniversary
I had an n of 346.
included and excluded
[he/him, comrade/them]
= he
, [she/her, they/them]
= she
method
Test string
text boxFunction
> List
Regular expression
field (above Test string
), paste: /^(\w+) \[(\w+).*\](.*\n.*\n+)(no|yes|maybe)/gim
List
field, (below Test string
), paste $1;$2;$4;\n
;
(semi colon) as column delimiter (used semicolon instead of ,
(comma) for compatibility when scraping all 4 pronouns)expected output is like this:
useruseruser1;he;Yes;
useruseruser2;he;No;
useruseruser3;he;no;
useruseruser4;she;Yes;
useruseruser5;he;No;
List
text box into a text file results.csv
and saveSet up spreadsheet
notepad.exe
on windows) to create a plain text file called template.csv
"number","UID","pron","ans","concat","pron count","pron count %","ans count","ans count %","cat count","cat count %","keep","n"
"=RANDBETWEEN.NV(10000,99999)",,,,"=CONCAT(C2,""-"",D2)","=COUNTIF(C:C,C2)","=ROUND(F2/$M2,3)*100","=COUNTIF(D:D,D2)","=ROUND(H2/$M2,3)*100","=COUNTIF(E:E,E2)","=ROUND(J2/$M2,3)*100",1,"=COUNTIF(L:L,1)"
File
> Open
and select template.csv
It should open the text import dialogue. Important settings:
Separated by
: comma
(uncheck the others)String delimiter
: "
(double quotation marks)Other options
: CHECK Evaluate formulas
File
> Save As
to save it as ODS
format which allows more features compared to csv
. I name this file combined.ods
.Open results
File
> Open
and select results.csv
. It should open the text import dialogue. Important settings:
Separated by
: semicolon
(uncheck the others) note this is different than the previous step!!Put results in template
combined.ods
B2
(blank under column heading UID
B
, C
, D
n
(the last column, actually it is column number M
) so that each value is 1
. by default it will start to count so the values will because 1
, 2
, 3
etc. Should be 1
,1
,1
.
0
it will be excluded. So you can keep data you want to exclude in the sheet.Now you must know how to use a spreadsheet. I suggest fixing all the answers to be the same case otherwise Yes
and yes
might be different in some circumstances.
Briefly the columns are:
-A
: number
: assigns a random number so the file can be shared without publishing usernames - anonymizes data but lets you keep a record of how you got the results. How to:
UID
number
(otherwise results will still be in the order as on the page and it might be possible to infer information)B
: UID
: user nameC
: pron
: first pronounD
: ans
: the answer provided
-E
: concat
: combines columns C
and D
. Expected output like she-Yes
. This is respresented in "Pronoun answer combinations"
-F
: pron count
, H
: ans count
, J
: cat count
: absolute number of each
-G
: pron count %
, I
: ans count %
, K
: cat count %: the
count value of each as a % of *
n* -
L:
keep: whether to include this line (explained elsewhere) -
M:
n`: total number of included rowsmethod variation: to capture all 4 pronouns
as above except:
Regular expression
field (above Test string
), paste: /^(\w+) \[(.*)\](.*\n.*\n+)(no|yes|maybe|deleted)/gim
expected output is like this:
useruseruser1;he/him, they/them;Yes;
useruseruser2;he/him;No;
useruseruser3;he/him, des/pair;no;
useruseruse4r;she/her;Yes;
useruseruser5;he/him;No;
RESULTS
For some reason the markdown tables are black text on black text dark grey background on my computer. I can't seem to fix that it's a problem with the website theme. Idk I'm tired of this by now.
table: total answer %
ans count % | ans |
---|---|
46.8% | No |
43.9% | Yes |
9.2% | Maybe |
csv: total answer %
percent,answer
46.8%,No
43.9%,Yes
9.2%,Maybe
table: Pronoun answer combinations %
percent | pronoun | answer |
---|---|---|
35.8% | he | No |
25.1% | she | Yes |
7.5% | they | Yes |
4.3% | comrade | No |
3.5% | none | No |
3.2% | he | Maybe |
3.2% | any | Maybe |
2.9% | comrade | Yes |
2.6% | he | Yes |
2.3% | any | Yes |
1.7% | any | No |
0.9% | they | No |
0.9% | it | Yes |
0.9% | fae | Yes |
0.6% | they | Maybe |
0.6% | she | No |
0.6% | she | Maybe |
0.6% | none | Yes |
0.6% | comrade | Maybe |
0.3% | ze | Yes |
0.3% | xey | Yes |
0.3% | undecided | Maybe |
0.3% | none | Maybe |
0.3% | love | Yes |
0.3% | fae | Maybe |
0.3% | e | Yes |
0.3% | e | Maybe |
csv: Pronoun answer combinations %
percent,pronoun,answer
35.8%,he,No
25.1%,she,Yes
7.5%,they,Yes
4.3%,comrade,No
3.5%,none,No
3.2%,he,Maybe
3.2%,any,Maybe
2.9%,comrade,Yes
2.6%,he,Yes
2.3%,any,Yes
1.7%,any,No
0.9%,they,No
0.9%,it,Yes
0.9%,fae,Yes
0.6%,they,Maybe
0.6%,she,No
0.6%,she,Maybe
0.6%,none,Yes
0.6%,comrade,Maybe
0.3%,ze,Yes
0.3%,xey,Yes
0.3%,undecided,Maybe
0.3%,none,Maybe
0.3%,love,Yes
0.3%,fae,Maybe
0.3%,e,Yes
0.3%,e,Maybe
table: Pronoun answer %
pron count % | pron |
---|---|
41.6% | he |
26.3% | she |
9% | they |
7.8% | comrade |
7.2% | any |
4.3% | none |
1.2% | fae |
0.9% | it |
0.6% | e |
0.3% | ze |
0.3% | xey |
0.3% | undecided |
0.3% | love |
csv: Pronoun answer %
percent,pronoun
41.6%,he
26.3%,she
9%,they
7.8%,comrade
7.2%,any
4.3%,none
1.2%,fae
0.9%,it
0.6%,e
0.3%,ze
0.3%,xey
0.3%,undecided
0.3%,love
Here is a link to the original thread for posterity: Informal Site Survey: Are you transgender or gender diverse? Yes, no, or maybe?
hell yeah, this was great to see!
thank you for doing this, very cool
Some people were not cis and did not identify with the words 'transgender' or 'gender diverse'. If I ever do a trans/adjacent survey again, I think I will ask 'Are you cis?'
yeah, probably a decent chunk of us where a more specific label would be more useful but might not exist, or primarily identifying with the umbrella terms might imply something inaccurate or inconvenient.
I forgot to vote!
Yes.
Thank you
No
Yes