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He's a transphobe and a racist.

I've seen too many on Reddit and Twitter that say "Oh but isn't it great that we're finally getting recognition!"

No. Not from him. He will likely steer the attention to his org and those that are adjacent to him, which are typically PatSocs and TERFs.

No.

We need to do better. But Galloway gets away with this shit on the left because he says the "most radical" thing next to "some problematic shit."

No.

"Some problematic shit" is still quite big.

Nobody should support George Galloway.

A typical anti-war or anti-Zionist SocDem would be better or any other milquetoast anti-war liberal or peace candidate.

^ There, I said it.

Agree or disagree, idc

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[–] Andrzej@lemmy.myserv.one 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A typical anti-war or anti-Zionist SocDem would be better or any other milquetoast anti-war liberal or peace candidate.

Surely the issue is that neither of these things are on the ballot in many/most constituencies. Totally legitimate to abstain and focus on extra-parliamentary stuff tbc, because Galloway is an awful POS, but let's not pretend there are a wealth of non-problematic electoral options

[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Fair enough.

A few British comrades have pointed out the municipal and local candidates that they're voting for that are pretty anti-Zionist or at least pay lip-service to the peace movement or anti-war movement.

But obviously, not everyone will make it.

I think my problem with George Galloway is that everyone that supports him are MLs but also seem to downplay his worst (and not even just his worst, just his bad) qualities in general.

And to me, ML spaces should not be looking the other way or talking about the bloke like those, shall we say, problematic, qualities don't exist.

But yeah, thanks for engaging with me here.

[–] Andrzej@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Tbh I'm of the opinion that we don't have to pay much attention to him at all, other than laughing when clowns like him inevitably move into the void on Labour's left

[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, I get that. I'm just afraid he'll reinsource certain tropes and all that. Like, yeesh, he's against abortion? Now?

[–] Andrzej@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah he's awful, and it's all very cynical — just a less filtered version of the appealing to conservative religious communities that Labour do all the time (seriously, many Lab candidates will imply incredibly conservative positions on issues like abortion, depending who they're talking to)

[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I can see that.

[–] radiofreeval@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

This is what critical support is for. Most users here support Hamas due to their actions against genocide but don't support their internal stances. The left has transphobic allies like Norm who are useful due to their knowledge or organizing abilities. We should not be asking if someone is perfect or even good. We should be asking if they can be used to advance socialism, and I don't know enough about Galloway to think he can be used to advance socialism, but I have critical support for any prominent figure standing with Palestine in a radical manner(excluding people standing with Palestine solely for reasons of antisemitism).

[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago
[–] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It doesn’t matter at all. You are in the US, like 85% of this userbase. Our support is nothing if we aren’t in his constituency

[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

Oh true, I just mean the folks online that follow him.

[–] Vampire@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

idc

Supporting Palestine is the bear minimum.

There are people that support Palestine that aren't TERFs or racists or what have you.

[–] Vampire@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What did he say/do that you're against?

[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago

Platforming transphobes and racist PatSocs.

In general, calling LGBTQ+ folk "unnatural."

[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[–] dannoffs@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I know it's wrong to judge someone on their looks but come on

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago

Roight guvna

[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Eh, he's old, but his bowler hat and general demeanor does give off that "cheeky libertarian" vibe every time I see him on camera.

[–] dannoffs@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago (3 children)

He looks like Ricky Gervais after a hard cry.

[–] D61@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago

Fuck me, I can't unsee it.

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago

lmao holy shit

[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago
[–] HexBroke@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The latest bride of 57-year-old Mr Galloway is anthropologist Putri Gayatri Pertiwi. At 27 she is two years younger than his first child, Lucy, a mother of two.

Yikes

[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago
[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It's bad enough that I saw a People's World article once that we had to take down exalting the "growing peace movement" or "anti-Zionist movement" in Britain.

Bleh. There are a bunch of anti-Zionist figures in Britain that aren't George Galloway. I literally have British friends talking about the lower levels and municipal elections and there are plenty of candidates.

But George Galloway is "outspoken" and has "fiery rhetoric" and the rhetoric is all that matters for some "communists."

[–] Vampire@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think people like him because he focuses on workers' issues, not the Culture Wars

[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Yet he invokes culture war talking-points.

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I ask George to describe his politics in one word. "Socialist. Although I'm not as left wing as you think." Surprise me, George. "I'm strongly against abortion. I believe life begins at conception, and therefore unborn babies have rights. I think abortion is immoral." You can't be pro-choice? "Who is choosing for the child?"

Well, I say, better the unborn unwanted child than the born unwanted one. "I can't accept that, because I believe in God. I have to believe that the collection of cells has a soul." No, he says, his faith in God cannot be shaken, and, yes, he hopes to go to Heaven. "I believe the souls of the departed will be there, and that I will see the good people I have known again." What would Hell be? A two-up, two-down shared with Tony Blair, Charles Moore, Julie Burchill and a cleaner who demands a lot of direction? "That would be hell," he confirms.


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/george-galloway-it-s-not-easy-being-gorgeous-54718.html

[–] Darthsenio_Mall@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

what about cab calloway?

[–] BJyXJe4LhZetOzA0@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

oh i was thinking about this (from ukkk )

but i totally agree

[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago
[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't even know who that is

[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago