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[–] happybadger@hexbear.net 101 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Four stories from the COVID supply crunch stood out to me:

  1. Factories building and garages maintaining 18-wheelers had to shut down because they couldn't source some small metal part that came from China domestically. It was just like a particular kind of ball-bearing.

  2. A factory that made doors had to shut down because it couldn't source its inputs domestically

  3. Municipal utility companies warned that they had no supplies to respond to infrastructure damage because they couldn't source them domestically

  4. Nurses were wearing trash bags while people paid $100 for homemade ineffective hand sanitiser on ebay because the basic supplies required to respond to the pandemic at any level couldn't be sourced domestically.

Big fuck around energy.

[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Yeah, a lot of industries that the USA needs is basically overseas at this point.

[–] happybadger@hexbear.net 56 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It'd be a shame if this trade war escalated to make consumer goods unavailable/more expensive during what will probably be the hottest summer in human history and an election year where the majority of Americans hate their unhinged genocidal president who's gaslighting them about the ersatz economy.

[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Even if it's not a recession, it's basically "hard economic times" masqueraded as a "booming" economy... which is a term that means nothing at this point.

[–] happybadger@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Let them eat bigscreen televisions.

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[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

If he announced he was intentionally trying to lose I'd have to admit he has an incredible understanding of how material conditions impact voting.

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[–] kristina@hexbear.net 95 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

50% on solar panels? Holy shit that's actually fucking insane, China makes 80% of all panels. They're nuking any hope of a green transition

[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 59 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So much for the Green New Deal...

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[–] robinnn@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago

THIS. IS. AN. INVESTMENT. IN. DEMOCRACY.

[–] T34_69@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is what I've been saying, possibly the worst consequence of the US policy of continuing the cold war is that it's antithetical to cooperation around climate change. Any delay in a renewable energy transition costs untold lives and quality of living standards. How are you supposed to install enough solar panels in time to make a difference, if you're trying to start a war with the country that produces the solar panels? It doesn't make sense unless we admit to the reality that capital will have its agenda fulfilled no matter what's superficially going on in the elections.. unless we do the needful

capabara-tank

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[–] Leon_Frotsky@hexbear.net 92 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You got a link to the original cus I'm about to abuse the shit out of this.

[–] Leon_Frotsky@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago

Trump doesn't get the basics. He thinks his tariffs are being paid by China. Any freshman econ student could tell you they're being paid by Americans

he-admit-it

[–] Parsani@hexbear.net 88 points 1 year ago (2 children)

100% on EVs,
And 50% on solar panels.

Fuck off

[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago

That's the worst part.

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm getting pretty close to my measured and nuanced response to any liberal telling me I have to support Biden being to kick them as hard as I can in the dick.

And then telling them a republican would have kicked them harder

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[–] Teekeeus@hexbear.net 88 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The yanks will also impose tariffs on EV batteries

Without access to lower-cost batteries and battery materials made in China, EVs will be too expensive for mainstream U.S. consumers, automakers have said.

joker-amerikkklap

Americans won't even be able to afford EVs to go with their billion dollar charging stations

[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago

Damn, from Reuters too.

I guess everyone's getting antsy about looming climate change.

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[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 80 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I'm sure that voters will be ecstatic to hear that Biden is tackling the bread and butter issues like "everything isn't expensive enough".

Does he really think that the people he's trying to win over care more about sticking it to China politically at the expense of renewable energy than being able to afford basic goods? All those people have already been screaming at progressives that everything's their fault for 8 months.

So much for that infantesimal amount of inflation reduction they were trying to campaign on.

[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago

No Green Leap Forward...

kitty-birthday-sad

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

Does he really think that the people he's trying to win over care more about sticking it to China politically at the expense of renewable energy than being able to afford basic goods?

Hell I think that because the only options the democrats ever seem to have is to appeal to republicans instead of non-voter

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[–] companero@hexbear.net 63 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
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[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Trade wars are good and easy to win trump-drenched

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Liberals get all bent out of shape when you say there's not any meaningful difference between them and Maga but have they ever considered not behaving exactly like them?

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[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Biden is stealing Trumps' lunch money here.

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I will laugh when libs come out majorly in favor of this move by Biden, but then as soon as Trump is president and talks about or does the same thing, they're suddenly going to be like ohnoes

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[–] EstraDoll@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"well the best part about the free market is that if you don't like a company, then a better company will come along and give you a better service. you can buy what you want and vote with your wallet"

[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I'm still buying a Chinese EV.

[–] EstraDoll@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

I'll fucking do it again.

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[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The adults the room(tm) used to say the free market would solve climate change because eventually green energy would become cheaper and then it would be widely adopted. Now the price has fallen and they're slapping tariffs

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[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 55 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Surely this is going to be followed by the largest attempt at reindustrialization in US history right? anakin-padme-2

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[–] Cigarette_comedian@hexbear.net 55 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I literally thought about this earlier today while on the bus, "What happens to the USA if they tariff all of Chinese goods, or China does it to them? Where will they get their treats from?" Well, looks like China needn't apply their own taxes and tariffs, cause dear old Joe is doing a capable job himself.

Certified :sit-back-and-enjoy: moment

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[–] POKEMONGOTOTHEGULAG@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

If you actually cared to compete with China you would join the technology arms race by investing heavily into it instead of banning superior competitors. If state intervention does positively affect technological progress instead of just pure competition, then neoliberal ideology is wrong and should be abandoned.

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago

They had a 2 decade head start on China to have a green industrial revolution but China managed to have their actual industrial revolution and now also a green one in the time we went from electing a president that thinks windmills cause cancer to electing that same guy president again.

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[–] drhead@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago (3 children)

there are some wonderfully salty threads on /r/neoliberal about this

[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What the fuck did they expect?

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[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Full Tweet if you're too lazy to click the title lol (it's fine):


I just imposed a series of tariffs on goods made in China:

25% on steel and aluminum,

50% on semiconductors,

100% on EVs,

And 50% on solar panels.

China is determined to dominate these industries.

I'm determined to ensure America leads the world in them.

[–] POKEMONGOTOTHEGULAG@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Kneecapping the most viable tech for a carbon-free future to own the commies

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[–] NewLeaf@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

... Ok then where the FUCK are the solar panels, Joe?

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I'm sure that'll help reduce inflation 🙄

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[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Guess we're not coming anywhere close to carbon reduction goals this-is-fine

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago

But Trump would make us miss them by more! planet-hillary

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[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Born to lose

Election is a fuck

252,534,748,452 dead Palestinians

biden-alert

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[–] EstraDoll@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

make the price of stuff go up

make green energy more expensive and less accessible

for the grand benefit of uhhh... sticking it to the reds?

this is why I can't take people seriously when they scream about how badly we need to get Biden elected to stop Trump. Because Biden seems to be doing everything in his power to lose 2024

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[–] Beaver@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Such an L even from a neoliberal point of view. The US is an advanced manufacturer, those are our inputs. Nations that are dominated by resource extraction get into a rut because they fundamentally can't match the productivity of economies that are creating the final end goods, because that's where most of the profit comes from. The sellers of inputs can only ever match the profit rate of the final good it's used for. The US is obviously not going to have a resurgence of production of steel, aluminum, solar panels, and semiconductors, so this is just going to end up tanking every sector that uses them. It's just the worst of the nudge-based economic brainworms taken to it's logical extreme.

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[–] Tunnelvision@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is it. This is the one that cements Americas decline into the annuls of history. All because of the Biden administration and the Dems. I will never vote for a dem as long as I live (I have never voted but still)

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