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[–] BabyTurtles@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago

Completely inevitable. The GOP needs a constant source of outrage to galvanize its base. Abortion just isn't the same now that it'll outright illegal in many states.

If they're smart, they'll stick to the culture war and not actually write any policy, or they'll have to find a new even more extreme position to fight on.

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

microplastics-cool Not a problem that micro plastics appear to be causing reproductive issues, right?

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago

As much as the evangelicals get the lion’s share of attention, there’s a significant bloc of traditional and conservative Catholics in the cultural conservatism movement, and Catholicism has a long-standing gripe with any “interference” with “God’s plan” when it comes to reproduction. Back in the 50’s and 60’s, evangelicals had qualms about touching abortion politics precisely because they saw it as a Catholic thing. But nowadays the divide isn’t there like it used to, and conservative Catholics have become more Protestant-like in their relationship to their religion, so it’s an easier sell to evangelicals; I suspect restrictions on prescription and OTC contraceptives will be next.

[–] supafuzz@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

The party of the most gullible, easily-led dipshits in a country full of gullible, easily-led dipshits

The doctors who push these therapies, which include surgery, argue that women and other doctors overuse IVF. “IVF is a really expensive last resort and there’s so much before that,” Lankford explained—a bizarre and condescending point that assumes that someone who has turned to the expensive and difficult process of IVF didn’t first test her hormone levels or check for fibroids.

Whereas Lankford’s bill encourages women with infertility to check for fibroids, the Southern Baptist Convention suggests they check in with a higher power. “Couples who experience the searing pain of infertility can turn to God, look to Scripture for numerous examples of infertility, and know that their lament is heard by the Lord, who offers compassion and grace to those deeply afflicted by such realities,” the denomination’s anti-IVF resolution reads.

My intuition is that it's an anti-feminist move. It'd be like an anti-contraceptive position where getting to plan your parenthood gives women more sovereignty over their career, choice of partner, and choice of role in a family. If you can freeze an embryo for IVF later in life, then you're cheating because they want you to marry young and not have a career. The venn diagram of people praying for artificial wombs so that women are no longer needed and those grateful for anti-IVF bills is an enveloped circle with a few outlying freaks who really really care for those embryos that don't get used during IVF. Because the only argument found in this article is ridiculous-on-its-face post hoc.

[–] duderium@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Owl@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

don't those usually happen at the same time

[–] henfredemars 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Logical OR. The condition is satisfied.

[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

one's condition tends to be satisfied after busting

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

Interesting strategy

[–] Dr_Gabriel_Aby@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I know (at least) 4 conservative leaning woman who could only have kids because of IVF. I wonder. How their brains handle this one

[–] HexBroke@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

Same way anti abortion Americans handle all the abortions they get

[–] jonne 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They did IVF for the right reasons. Similar to how they justified their own abortions.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Let's not get it twisted, they just don't want the wrong people getting IVF.