Pretty sure I alienated everyone in my local furry Discord by saying I'm refusing to vote for Genocide Joe lmao
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Trans and not voting for Joe gang 
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Unless you live in a swing state, it doesn't matter who you vote for. And unless everyone in the discord lives in a swing state, it doesn't matter who they vote for either.
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If your org has Palestinians, tell the people in that discord you're not voting for someone who ordered the deaths of your comrades' extended families. As far as Palestinians are concerned, Biden murdering their extended family is fucking personal. Nobody's fucking voting for some dude who killed their family and friends.
Don't argue with principles because liberals have none.
Don't argue with principles because liberals have none.
Nazi furs fuck off.
God how did it fucking come to this. They're lesser eviling over fucking genocide. How did this happen?
It's always how liberals fall into fascism
"We have to support the nazis to stop the commies"
"We have to support this dictator to stop the Soviets"
"We have to back the neolibs to stop Reagan"
"We have go support the war on terror to stop Bush"
On, and on, and on
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That's the neat thing, you can lesser evil over anything. When your whole understanding of the world is grounded in idealism and fantasy instead of materialism, you can always conjure up an imaginary phantom of a worse world to justify the horrible world you're actually making. That's how liberals will try to slow walk the entirety of life on Earth into the grave.
Those in the imperial core have always been willing to sacrifice brown people overseas to save themselves.
The best way to push a candidate left is to promise you'll vote for them no matter what
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I've been baiting people into posting paragraphs of the good things they think Joe Biden did and then replying I don't read the rhetoric of genocide collaborators. Do It at home. It fucking rules.
This is totally unrelated but I keep mistaking the guy in your avatar for MD Geist
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unless you live in a swing state your vote is symbolic either way. I guess these people would prefer you symbolically vote for a genocidal piece of shit
even if you do live in a swing state good on you for voting based on your principles. the whole "voting for third party candidates is useless because they can't win" is such horseshit. motherfucker, you're the reason why they can't win. they're electable if you vote for them...
Your vote is symbolic regardless, swing state or not your vote is not going to decide the election. Which makes voting for someone solely to prevent the other candidate from winning utterly pointless.
People voting for biden because he wont make things worse for you personally is also a take pride in your self centredness moment lol
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Are they completely ignorant of the trans genocode happening under Biden?
Third parties are an option.... just saying doing the same over and over again expecting differnt results / harm reduction well....
The next is going to be a 4 year term. Both are term limited out. Midterms usually bad for the guy in office's party. So what happens after 2028? Clean election. Possible 2 terms up for grabs. You think after 4 more years of 
people are going to want another round of Joe Biden's Democrats?
Or you could skip the wait and vote 3rd party.
Are they completely ignorant of the trans genocode happening under Biden?
One of them linked me something called "President Biden's pro-LGBTQ timeline"
before 2030 the us will backslide on gay rights to the point that these liberals would have justified bombing it, as a country, on those grounds in the current day
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Get in the Delorean, Jack, we're gonna make everyone gay in the past
Does that include the 100's of anti lgbtq laws and over 20 states trying to criminalize queers? Especially the attacks on queer youth?
What the hell has Biden done to defend us?
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Not voting for Biden makes it easier for Trump to win,
Not voting for Trump makes it easier for Biden to win.
and Trump will genocide trans people in addition to Palestinians. Therefore anything you do supports genocide, so you might as well support less genocide."
If either side supports genocide, supporting either side supports genocide. What I am doing is refusing to support genocide.
"Your trans friends will all know that you're functionally anti-trans." (I'm sure this would be a shock to my trans friends in my org, all of whom have made it clear they will also not vote for Biden)
My Palestinian friends appreciate that I'm not functionally anti-palestine. By not voting for Trump, I am not voting for trans genocide.
"Trump would genocide Palestinians even harder."
How exactly?
"Biden wants to stop the genocide, but the Republicans won't let him."
Can you be more specific?
You know, hadn't consider; to the libs Palestinians might as well be space aliens or something. They're not living people you know.
Fascists think Palestinians aren't human, while libs think we shouldn't care because they're not Western™.
It's a distinction without a difference.
Have pride in your self centeredness, I guess.
i would become feral
Genocide apologists are turning me into a feral sparkledog
And you know what, I like it
[The Palestinian] genocide is going to happen regardless of the two. But the one that's happening here, that one can be stopped. And you refuse to do anything about it because you think you're so much better.
These are just white supremacist freaks, the majority of the country is not gonna vote for genocide Joe, they act like they have some moral high ground while admitting outright to supporting genocide
They don't understand that they've revealed they are willing to sacrifice any ethnic and minority group if it means their political ambitions can be realized vicariously, they're fascists who turn the lives of minorities and non-whites into political currency
You think you're so much better
I can hear the inflection of the soOoo
Anyway yes, yes I am
"Your trans friends will all know that you're functionally anti-trans." (I'm sure this would be a shock to my trans friends in my org, all of whom have made it clear they will also not vote for Biden)
Boy I sure do LOVE being used as a non-consensual pawn in a game of petty internet arguing.
“Evil is evil, Stregobor,” said the witcher seriously as he got up. “Lesser, greater, middling, it's all the same. Proportions are negotiated, boundaries blurred. I’m not a pious hermit. I haven't done only good in my life. But if I’m to choose between one evil and another, then I prefer not to choose at all.”
Sapkowski has some good takes, for a pole 
fucking horrifying lack of empathy from people going "Well they can have a little genocide, as a treat so we wont have any." which isnt even fucking true. Biden was in power when Roe v Wade was taken down. Trans rights are being demolished all around and the democrats do nothing.
Fuck these people.
"Your trans friends will all know that you're functionally anti-trans."
Hi. Please tell this person specifically that your trans friends say fuck-this-guy-in-particular for weaponising us, he doesn't give fuck about trans people. Screenshot if you like.
Also anyone that votes for someone performing a genocide is complicit in that genocide and legitimising their mandate. The only correct choice is to not give them a mandate. Every single murder that the US performs in conjunction with this war these liberals have knowingly endorsed with their votes, every single death should be thrown in their faces, they now own this blood and have no ability to say "I didn't know he would do that". I feel like saying "you voted for this" to their faces every single fucking time I see a dead child.
Liberals alway seem to conveniently forget that trans Palestinians exist, and that the biggest danger to trans people living in Gaza currently is not Hamas, but the fascist, genocidal settler state that "lesser evil" Biden is doing everything possible to support
They always like to think of Palestinians and maybe all Arabs as this monolithic mass, instead of a culture that also contains a lot of diversity. I live in a Muslim country and there's a lot of diversity. There are trans people, and openly gay people, progressives, atheists, feminists, etc. Even between Muslims with traditional values there's a lot of disagreement.
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I feel like there is some neurosis in seppos about voting. It so doesn’t matter it’s not even funny.
P.s.And they are voting for one genocide instead of zero, so they have roughly 0.0005 (round 10 days I think) of palestinian life on their hands, if we do moralistic arguments
P.s.And they are voting for one genocide instead of zero, so they have roughly 0.0005 (round 10 days I think) of palestinian life on their hands, if we do moralistic arguments
According to their own calculus, every option supports genocide, so they're taking the best option by supporting one instead of two. Which sounds an awful lot like the argument of someone who wants to rationalize the fact that they're choosing to support a genocide.
Two worlds: dems eat shit cause of genocide and one they don’t.
In which world dems have a chance to readjust isntrael politics? Whatcha they got to say about that? 
Same question if they eat shit by third party margin
Pushing a candidate/party to the left (if such a thing were possible) requires leverage. "Stop the genocide or lose the election" is leverage, but it has to be a credible threat and you have to follow through on it if you want to be taken seriously. Otherwise democrats continue moving to the right and ignore you because you never do anything but ask politely with no consequences or incentives.
They said "oh we'll push Biden left after 2020". Well here we are, trying to push, put up or shut up you fucking sycophants.
Pushing a candidate/party to the left (if such a thing were possible) requires leverage.
They didn't understand this with the whole "Bernie or Bust" thing in 2020 either. Or maybe they did, but either way, they chose to characterize it as petulant. "Taking the ball and going home" was a common way they'd try to deride it.
Yep. They have class solidarity, so even when the Democrats "lose", it's more like "winning a tiny bit less". So they'd rather "lose" every single time than give the working class an inch.
The cope will only become more and more hilarious as we get closer to the election
Anyone who votes for a president actively enabling a genocide is complicit in that genocide, and voting for a guy who promises the same is also being complicit. Compromise is one thing, perfect candidates don't exist and libs suck and have shitty politics, but a line must be drawn as to what can be accepted in those margins and genocide surpasses it. Any sort of endorsement is complicity and anyone who does so should be treated as the collaborators they are.
Libs are just straight up saying "voting for Joe Biden is not an endorsement of Joe Biden" and I'm like 
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I'm not voting for genocide joe (who owes me $2000 (and I wouldn't vote for him even if he paid up))
Don't forget he promised to cure cancer if elected and he got elected and you know what, I'm pretty sure there's still cancer Joseph
Fuck 'em. If Joe / Democrat replacement does lose, be sure to personally take credit.
First off, amazing title. Tagline pls.
That argument about trans people sucks ass, and not in a sexual way.
"Genocide only matters when it happens to meeeeee"
It's also stupid because we didn't used to have genocide as something that was just given (we did, but not something libs acknowledged) now we do. Do they think it just stops here? If you accept genocide there's not going to be less of it. Next election it'll be "well sure trans people are being killed, but our candidate doesn't want to murder homosexuals! If you vote for their guy you'll get killed. It's about stopping the genocide that's yet to happen!"
Also Biden is enabling persecution if trans people, so it doesn't even make sense. "Well he's just allowing you to be gathered into camps, he's not ordering it himself and youre not getting murdered by the state, yet. If you dont vote for us, you will be. Also we're not going to do anything to change conditions." Its just a straight up threat to keep trans people in line.
Point out that you do not support genocide, so therefore you won't vote for Biden. You don't support trans genocide either, which is why you won't vote for Trump.
Reassure them by saying that you'll be not voting for Trump more than you'll be not voting for Biden. Since not voting for Biden is a vote Trump and vice versa, then you have functionally voted for Biden, so there's nothing to be mad about.
Call them spineless for accepting genocide, and make some suggestion of direct action they can do. If they're truly supportive of Palestine, then they'll want to help, right? So they'll donate to help some people out over there, right?
they alienaed you by beeing complicit in Genocide , Rape , Appartheit ,Genocide and Elder Abuse..
Created a furry account just to say this: Would you perhaps be interested in joining a furry communist discord? :3c
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Quick questions for them:
What has Biden actually done to protect trans people through legislation?
Do they believe that international law needs to be upheld?
Do they think that it's okay to be complicit in genocide?
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