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- French fries might be from Paris where it was sold on the Pont Neuf in 1780.. They are called frite so no claim of national dish.
- French press was first patented in 1852 in France. Again it just called cafetière à piston so piston coffee machine.
- Idk from where it is from but again we just call it pain perdu which translate to lost bread because it is a good recipe for old bread you forgot in the kitchen.
- Last one is the normal kiss here and fun fact a kiss with the mouth close is called a smack
So yeah why does the american/english don't do more research about origins and call everything french ?
It's because deep frying was not very common in the U.S. Immersion in hot fat was considered a French style of cooking, so they're French style fried potatoes. I think "fries" instead of "frieds" is dialect that caught on nationally in the U.S. in the 70s.
Yeah, it never occurred to anyone ever to stick their tongues in each others mouths until it was documented in ancient India.
Anon didn't say that it started in ancient India, just that the fact that it happened in ancient India proves that it didn't start in France
We generally attribute discoveries to whoever documented it first. It's almost laughable to attribute it to the French based on a kissing style that was widespread there in 1923. Surely people were doing it before then. Yet, the Americans and British found it so unique they referred to it as French kissing.
Perhaps it was common before ancient India, but then the question is, why didn't the ancient Babylonians, Egyptians, Chinese, Romans, and Greek document on it then?
We barely document how we wipe our asses or shower because it's such a mundane, day to day thing.
Writing was limited, so I hypothesize that people would focus on important things like tax collections, kingly births or even that cunt Ea-Nasir. Less so on kissing or things they would find mundane.
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Just have to triple check whether French revolution occured in French.
Which gives rise to the true founding father of Germany. Napoleon.
Without his restructuring of the HRE for management it would be even harder to unify later.
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Britain is the land mass that includes England, Wales, and Scotland.
William the Conquerer was the first Norman king of England and never had power over Wales and he was mostly successful in gaining homage from King Malcolm III, but never king over the lands.
Edward I about two hundred years later almost pulls it off, but doesn't quite get a firm grip on Scotland. James I in the early 17th century holds the crown for each of the lands. In 1707 they formalize the relationship with a treaty.
So... No the French did not found Britain.
Also Normans were descendants of viking settlers. So French didn't technically fund England either (yes, I'm being pedantic for the sake of the joke).
You could, however, accurately say that a French family founded the modern British monarchy. That much is still true. The UK royal family can still trace its lineage directly to William the Conqueror.
It's not just the royal family, other descendants of the french conquerors are also on average wealthier than the descendants of those that had been conquered.
One pretty striking statistic: "Furthermore, Norman descendants also enjoy other privileges, including attendance at the best universities. In a recent study that examined the enrollment at Cambridge and Oxford over the last thousand years, it was revealed that at certain times, Norman names were 800% more common at Oxford than in the general population, and more recently, were at least twice as likely to found in that institution’s enrollment."
https://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2014/10/last-1000-years-families-owned-england/
The Normans were Vikings - the then Frankish King, Charles, gave them land in north France if they agreed to shut the fuck up and stop murdering everyone in sight. They become known as 'Northmen' which contracted to 'Norsemen' which contracted to 'Norman'.
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Nobody in France calls French fries or French toast "French". We're definitely happy to attribute the fries to our Belgian friends and nobody thinks something as ubiquitous as toasts could have a single inventor. I think those are Anglo-Saxon cultural elements.
No we are not attributing fries to the Belgian, fries are french. The Belgian improved on our invention and make the best fries, but Frenchs invented it.
Content warning, a lot of french: https://www.musee-gourmandise.be/fr/musee-gourmandise/articles-de-fond?view=article&id=132%3Ala-veritable-histoire-de-la-frite&catid=77%3Aarticles-fond
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Also here we call it "cafetière à piston" not french press.
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> Britain was founded by the French
Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon? The son of an Irish immigrant? He’s not the kind of guy who’d let facts get in the way of an opinion so we’re probably pretty solid saying that in front of him. If he did run his mouth, then I got your back, blud.
Belgium is kinda France tbh
The first step is admitting it
It's also kind of Dutch.
It's almost like national borders are fake and peoples just blend into each other
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To save anyone else the wiki trip
“Some authors consider the recipe for Aliter Dulcia (translated as 'Another sweet dish') included in the Apicius, a 1st-century CE Ancient Roman cuisine cookbook, "not very different" from modern French toast, although it does not involve eggs.[10][11]
In Le Viandier, culinary cookbook written around 1300, the French chef Guillaume Taillevent presented a recipe for tostées dorées[12] involving eggs and sugar.[13]”
When a dish with 3 ingredients is missing one ingredient, it's not the same dish.
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"France" comes from the "franks" who were considered Germans originally
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This is not the French claiming ownership of stuff, this is shitty naming on the part of Americans who thinks all european food is from France. Or who really wouldn't know the difference between Europe and France to begin with.
The most elegant and refined food, fries.
The French invented sex. Before then people would just sort of split into two small people who’d then have to grow back to full size, and it was very boring and not very je ne c’est sais quoi.
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"We invented democracy, existentialism, and the ménage à trois."
"Oh man... Those are three pretty good things."
Democracy? Explain please, i thought the concept was way older than France.
I'm just quoting Talladega Nights.
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Well, technically the French did not found Britain - they were Normans.
Who were the Normans? They were Scandinavian vikings who had been raiding France for decades. Eventually the French king decided to offer them lands (now called Normandy) in France if they promised to stop raiding and instead protect the French coast.
Meh, this is largely a debate over semantics since the mere notion of a "French people" wouldn't have made sense at the time. "Frenchness" isn't an ethnicity, it's a mix of many different peoples that mixed and intertwined over the years (celts, romans, germanic tribes, immigrants from all over Europe...) and that eventually were all brought together as subjects of the french kingdom.
Normans weren't "french" in the modern sense of the word, but then again very few people in what would later become modern France would have at that time : they all would have considered themselves "Provençal", or "Breton", or "Lorrain" who just happened to live in a Duchy that swore fealty to the king of France.
All things considered, William the Conqueror was a lord of the french kingdom, swore fealty to the king of France and spoke French, so he was no less (but no more, granted) French than any other of his peers. Whether you want to call him french is up to you but is largely an anachronism
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