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[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 84 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Somehow businesses have managed to convince people it’s normal to waste countless hours of their life listening to someone else tell them what they need to buy so they can be happy and fulfilled. We’re bombarded by it. Radio, TV, internet, social media, busses, billboards, flyers, junk mail, email spam. It’s everywhere. It completely pervades our society and lives. It’s pervasive and it’s anything but normal.

It’s a sign of a seriously sick culture, and somehow we’ve all become brainwashed and numb to its harmful effects.

[–] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 35 points 6 months ago (3 children)

You might find Edward Bernays and his impact on advertising interesting.

One of the numerous problems for America’s magnates was the consumption of the average citizen. Many only purchased what they really needed, a behaviour which moguls wanted to change. The Wall Street banker Paul Mazur summarised this in a particularly straightforward manner: ‘We must shift America from a needs to a desires culture’, he wrote in 1927 in the Harvard Business Review. ‘People must be trained to desire, to want new things even before the old have been entirely consumed.’

https://www.historytoday.com/miscellanies/original-influencer

https://www.npr.org/2005/04/22/4612464/freuds-nephew-and-the-origins-of-public-relations

https://theconversation.com/the-manipulation-of-the-american-mind-edward-bernays-and-the-birth-of-public-relations-44393

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 12 points 6 months ago

Economy goes brrr. He needs a special circle of hell. And perhaps if not him it would have been someone else, but he was the one who brought upon consumerism, planned obsolescence, and the whole "keeping up with the Jones".

[–] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 10 points 6 months ago

Christ on a bike, imagine finding out Goebbels used your methods to murder millions, and you still didn't realise that you're a cunt 😬

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

With exceptions of few countries, I believe the modern society is closer to the novel Brave New World than 1984 story. People have been convinced to accept control by way of pleasure. To forget the mundane and realities of life in exchange for gratification by constant triggering of our own biochemistry that induces the feeling of pleasure. We are encouraged buy the things we don't need to impress the people we don't like, so that consumer spending will keep the all-mighty economy kept being fed. But if we complain that we don't have enough left for essentials, then we are told it's because we keep buying iPhone or avocado toast. The media will say that the economy is slowing down because of less consumer spending, but then chastise us for doing the exact same thing we are told to do: spend and spend.

[–] dreikelvin@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Imagine a generation of people centering even their nostalgia around commercial products instead of interpersonal relationships and life experiences. Those things are replaced by products that are becoming crucial to creating it, like game consoles, commercials, printed media - just abysmal

[–] phlegmy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 months ago

What’s abysmal?

People are going to have nostalgia for the the things they grew up with.
The house you grew up in, your neighbourhood, the school you went to, tv shows, games, whatever.

These things don’t replace nostalgia for interpersonal relationships and life experiences, they supplement them.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I put on a Youtube channel of 80's commercials as a pre-roll before a scheduled meeting, it was wildly popular

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago

There are a few channels that will run 8-10 hour Sunday morning cartoon compliations with commercials included. For some reason I really like those even when I hate almost all other ads.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

It completely pervades our society and lives. It’s pervasive and it’s anything but normal.

perverts. it's perverted. a more fitting word.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 months ago

It okay

If they can afford advertising then their product is overpriced and not worth your time

[–] AWittyUsername@lemmy.world 53 points 6 months ago (5 children)
[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 months ago

Please also include all the bullshit random toys, card games, loot boxes, and other garbage people like to pretend are not gambling.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 7 points 6 months ago

Don't forget lootboxes

[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

You know. Just turn it off entirely.

nod

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 months ago

So recently our local government relaxed the rules on sports betting / advertising. It's now everywhere. When you go to see our local MLB team the stadium is coated in bright LEDs advertising bet dot com.

[–] ThomasCrappersGhost@feddit.uk 2 points 6 months ago

Now gambling firms have ads that tell you not to use them.

I’m wouldn’t mind if it was “you have increased your limit once today, you can’t do that for 48 hours now” then 60, then 120, or something. But no, it’s just “set limits”, that you can change whenever you want…

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 47 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Muffins?

I'm not sure I've ever seen an advert for a muffin

[–] AlpacaChariot@lemmy.world 51 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Just in case it's not obvious, they mean an English muffin, a kind of flat bread roll. In the UK that's what they sell for breakfast at McDonald's (sausage and egg, bacon and egg etc).

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago (2 children)

You know, this is the first time I've witnessed a country refer to something we call [country] [thing] as just [thing]

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

A sausage and egg McMuffin does not look like a muffin. It actually does look like an English muffin because that's what it is.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Oh course the McMuffin is served on a muffin. But when I just hear “muffin” by itself I don’t think of the sandwich including sausage and egg and cheese and whatnot. You have to actually say “McMuffin” to conjure that image. Otherwise I just think of a plain English muffin.

It would be like if they said they were banning advertisements for buns. While a hamburger is typically served on a bun, just saying bun alone doesn’t really include the entire sandwich. I could serve a hamburger in a lettuce wrap, or on sliced sourdough or something other than a bun. If McDonald’s served their sausage and egg on a lettuce wrap, would that circumvent this ad ban?

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[–] dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)
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[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Oooh right of course. I've not had a maccies breakfast in a while and kinda forgot. Most breakfast places I've ever been to just sell "baps", "rolls" or "butties" even if they end up serving it on a muffin roll

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (5 children)

Lol. Most English people don't even know what an English Muffin is, they are less common there then they are in the US.

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[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

Like a mcdonalds mcmuffin maybe?

[–] mtchristo@lemm.ee 35 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Next, they will make healthy food affordable, right ? Right ?????

[–] SlimeKnight@lemm.ee 8 points 6 months ago

Best they can do is make junk more expensive than healthy food.

[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 7 points 6 months ago

Centrist government says: We've done the lefty thing. Leaving that in place is a righty thing, so no. Balance

[–] card797@champserver.net 17 points 6 months ago

This is probably for the best.

[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

Finally. It always baffeed me that it's legal to advertise bread covered sugar to children

[–] MadBob@feddit.nl 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Odd to hear of old Blighty coming out with a level-headed policy after the last decade or so of wank governance.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Labour government.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

What's wrong with muffins? Meh, who cares. Muffins sell themselves by being muffins.

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Let's see if it helps the obesity problem.

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This somehow makes me want to go and order a burger

[–] esc27@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

A muffin burger with a side of cereal

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[–] uis@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

Muffins?

No, really, why muffins?

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