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Unknown source, just found it on Facebook and last trace I found is this Reddit post but it isn't marked as OC: https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/gmky0e/the_difference_between_constantinople_city_of/

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 56 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Istanbul was Constantinople. Now it's Istanbul, not Constantinople.

So if you've a date in Constantinople, she'll be waiting in Istanbul.

I hope this helps any single people.

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If you have a date in Constantinople, I doubt they are still waiting unless you hurry very hard

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Hate to be the one who breaks it to you but this is, well, beyond hurrying

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Maybe, but you have to remember that even old New York was once New Amsterdam. Why they changed it, I can't say.

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 months ago

Even old New York was once New Amsterdam.

I hope this helps some people on first dates.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 47 points 5 months ago (6 children)

That's nobody's business but the Turks

[–] EfreetSK@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

I saw exactly this comment under the Facebook post I mentioned in the description. And I'm afraid to ask but - is it a nationalistic thing or is it a joke I'm not getting?

[–] terabytes@lemm.ee 25 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 months ago

Please be Rick Astley, Please be Rick Astley.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 19 points 5 months ago (3 children)

It's a song reference.

An old one, but it stays in circulation for some reason even among younger folks. It's the one already linked by someone else, by they might be giants

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

for some reason

Because it’s a great song? Right up there with Happy Birthday

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It was in Umbrella Academy, which probably introduced it to a lot of younger folks who otherwise wouldn't have heard it

[–] whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago

thanks, I was wondering from where I discovered it

[–] aido@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Its been in Just Dance

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[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 26 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The rest of Turkey’s a lot smaller than I expected

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

you beat me to it

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 25 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

I recently learned that Istanbul is actually a Greek based mashup word for "in the city"

[–] leisesprecher@feddit.org 28 points 5 months ago (3 children)

If you look deep enough, pretty much every city's name is actually some banale description of the location or some guy who was relevant to it's founding.

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Examples of this in the cities of Scotland that we can actually trace the etymologies of:

  • Perth: "Copse". Perth is in a forested area
  • Aberdeen: "Mouth of Devona's river". Devona was an old Celtic goddess, and Aberdeen actually lies between the mouths of two rivers named for her
  • Inverness: "Mouth of the roaring river". Inver- derives from the Gaelic branch of the Celtic languages, whereas Aber- comes from the Brythonic branch. It's at the mouth of the river Ness, which is one of the fastest-discharging rivers in the UK
  • Glasgow: "green hollow". "Hollow" here is in the sense of a small valley. Glasgow is one of the rainiest cities in Europe and also has a remarkably temperate climate for being at the same latitude as Moscow, so it probably was very green before it became a city
[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

isn't aberdeen even simpler? it literally has the river Dee running through it, aber-dee-n

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 1 points 5 months ago

Yes and no. Both of the major rivers at Aberdeen — the Don and the Dee — are derived from the name of Devona. The original settlement of Aberdeen was around the Don rather than the Dee. The bit around the Dee is "New Aberdeen" (or at least, it was "new" in the 12th century). While the Dee > Deen connection is an intuitive one, Don > Deen also keeps the consonants consistent

But also, it felt worthwhile to dig into what the names within each name meant too, which is why I gave "mouth of the roaring river" instead of "mouth of the Ness"

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

I only recently learned that Budapest was originally two separate cities on opposite sides of a river named Buda and Pest.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

The rivers here are names of colors.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Actually, it likely means "in/to/into Constantinople" (p. 240), and Constantinople itself is named after Constantine the Great.

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So is Al-Madinah (literally 'The City') in KSA.

Makes me wish I could register “the pen” as a trademark or something and start selling pens under that name. I wonder if that also makes it impossible for anyone ever find this brand online.

[–] Aachen@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Technically, Al-Madinah is shortened for Al-Madinah al-Munawwarah, which means The Luminous City.

So maybe you could sell 'the luminous pen' instead 🤔

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 months ago

That would also make SEO so much easier.

[–] FourPacketsOfPeanuts@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I can't believe Istanbul actually is not Constantinople.

(Not that it's any of my business..)

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What's the difference between the city of Istanbul and Istanbul? Is it like a regional state with the same name that the city lies within?

[–] EfreetSK@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Yes, from what I understood, the "Istanbul" is a state.

I was trying to find that facebook post where people explained it but Facebook just says "fuck you, you saw it, there's no way to get it back". I can't believe they went away with this "feature" ...

[–] Frostbeard@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It's Miklagard (old Norse name for the city)

"Gard"means wall/fence and is incidentally where you get gorod in Russian/Slavic languages I think.

[–] ODGreen@slrpnk.net 4 points 5 months ago

Also where you get "yard" in English

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

this confused me since "gård" absolutely does not have the meaning of fence/wall in modern swedish, and looking at wiktionary it seems in ancient norse it only slightly had that meaning, with other meanings being the more sensible to me "city", "region", and "yard".

[–] Frostbeard@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The word gard still also means fence in Norwegian. Still in use i the words "Skigard" (using the original meaning of the word ski as wood split lengthwise) and "steingard".

Also in the word "manngard" as a line of people moving forward when searching for something or someone.

It also means the word gård.

[–] DirigibleProtein@aussie.zone 5 points 5 months ago

What about Byzantium?

[–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

All I see is two people kissing

[–] essell@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Constantinople looks like a nipple. I like it

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Constantinipple was right there, chief

[–] essell@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Now it's Istanipple not Constantinipple.

Its gonna get the works

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

As a colorblind person, this is really hard to grok.

[–] DankOfAmerica@reddthat.com 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

grok

Understand (something) intuitively or by empathy.

[–] TheBrideWoreCrimson@sopuli.xyz 4 points 5 months ago

Thank you, Commander Data.

[–] DankOfAmerica@reddthat.com 4 points 5 months ago

Paris, Texas

  • Settled: by 1824
  • Named: 1844
  • Inc.: 1845
  • Named for: Paris, France [emphasis mine]

It's crazy what you find out about a city's name if you look into it.

[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 4 points 5 months ago

This is outdated, its way bigger now, especially in the east

There is an office district, and villas being built

Also, a highway was made to connect land in a flat spot near the middle of the peninsula where urban developers for some reason made a second city there