Anyone using Lineage? How is it?
I’ve got a Pixel 7 and have been wondering
this post was submitted on 31 Dec 2024
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its alright, it kept my "supposed to be dead" phone to keep on running with latest stuff, i like the built in firewall, but if you're privicy focused then this is not for you.
It's annoying to upgrade between whole number android versions.
I used it extensively ony Samsung Galaxy S4 until Android 9 or 11. Was very good (model jflte(xx))
I was planning to move to Lineage, and eventually GrapheneOS (non Pixel at the moment) but revolut has broken compatibility by enforcing the use of the Play Integrity API, revolut is my main bank so I'm kinda blocked, for now... 🤬
My last bank did that so I switched banks my new bank app works without any play services installed on GOS.
that's the spirit
I may follow suit down the road, I'm even contemplating having a second cheap phone, with a long battery life, only used for revolut, I don't think I really have any other apps that I couldn't survive without.
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I dont get why anyone would use LineageOS on a phone that new and that well supported by custom roms (GraphineOS, /e/os, etc)
True But maybe might be helpful if the phone hits EOL?
At that point using it will be less secure, the reason why GraphineOS stops supporting devices is because they focus on security. In addition the Pixel 9 will be EOL in what eight years from now? Maybe even more
I like lineageOS more, because GrapheneOS includes google play, even while sandboxed i don't like that
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How safe is Lineage?
Their devs dont really care about security so id say its not safe at all.
Any source on this?
Lineage allows people to have newer android/security patches on end-of-life phones, that's a pretty good security argument.
That first link talks about how it requires an unlocked bootloader, therefore verified boot is disabled and the device is less secure.
While that is true, I think that's a bit of an unfair thing to hold against it considering on most Android phones, you need to unlock the bootloader to run anything the OEM doesn't approve, and most vendors do not support installing your own keys.
That should be a criticism against the OEM for forcing you to weaken the security of the device to have full control over it, not Lineage. That is not really their fault.
I think it would be nice of them to mention that the signing keys being held by the OEM and the OEM only is a massive security (and freedom!) weakness on it's own, and that without being able to sign everything yourself, you can't really be certain of the security of your device, as you cannot control everything on it.
GrapheneOS
I connect my glucometer (Dexcom G6) with my phone and I'm assuming lineage wouldn't work with it.
Lineage is just Android, however, some apps (Usually banking apps are the worst offender) throw a fit running on rooted/custom roms, though it's usually bypass able with varying amounts of effort. I would not expect a glucometer app to have issues, but I've seen apps throw that fit for less in the past.
Being a medical thing, I'd advise you to pickup a cheap used Android phone that's also on the supported list to test out your app first, or at least have an alternative means of monitoring it
I did some Google searching and it came up... inconclusive, though the Dexcom website has this blurb on the compatible phones section
"You can use this app on any OS that meets the minimum requirements, but Dexcom recommends not updating to a new OS before it's listed here."
And the only minimum requirement for Android is that it's v10. I also didn't see mention of root/or "unauthorized OSes" on that page and alot of the times they will put something like that if a companies app will scan for root/custom roms
So, you might be fine
Does NFC still work? (I know that low key defeats the purpose of a privacy oriented android build but yeah)
Yes, NFC the technology works. However, certain applications, like Google Wallet can be problematic and require workarounds (not because of technology itself though)
I know that low key defeats the purpose of a privacy oriented android build but yeah
Not everyone using a custom ROM is doing it for privacy reasons. I see privacy as a perk but I mainly use custom ROMs to keep my devices around longer and to get new features.
Even for those who are concerned about privacy, I don't think NFC is that big of a security hole. I know some people who turn it on only when they're using it, but that's pretty painless.
Yeah I did that with an old Motorola, it went for years. Now I have a pixel and it seems to come with a lot of features that break when installing an alternative OS
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afaik it should. but why do you think NFC defeats privacy? it is quite short range, isn't it? having google services is much worse
Well, I was mostly concerned about google knowing where I'm shopping. I know using google pay is lazy buy I'm not perfect...
oh google pay, I see. but that's not NFC's fault, it's useful for other things too.
speaking about it, I'm not sure google pay will work. but I never used it, so I don't know for sure, but there's this suspicion after what banks do
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Works on GrapheneOS
Oh damn, good to know
Out of curiosity, why do you think it wouldn’t work?
It already only works on a pretty narrow selection of android phones. It seems like the Dexcom app is very picky.
Yeah... That's how I initially got it to work on my pixel 6 pro. Since then they started supporting it.