I don't use mint, but the serenity of a reliable platform to work on by far outweighs the boringness of the system.
My computer is a tool, not a hobby (anymore).
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I feel the same way on PoPOS. I have compiled my own kernel (it's actually not that difficult honestly) and done all matter of work at work. It's also how I know the system is super stable and I don't have to mess with things for my daily driver stuff.
Mint is my favourite distro. Is everything I want from my computer.
... Except the Nvidia support. I need the actual proprietary driver for cuda and it's not the easiest of rides.
(I switched to Nobara for better support and now the drivers memory leak. I need the courage to distrohop again)
Debian with the mint UI. All of the debian memes, but none of the UI headaches!
There's also LMDE which is mint built on Debian instead of Ubuntu. The Mint guys had the foresight to prepare for a future when they'd get fed up with Ubuntu's nonsense.
Dang it, you gotta come in here and tempt me to distrohop... That's a dang attractive choice.
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Except the Nvidia support. I need the actual proprietary driver for cuda
As far as I know, the open-source driver supports CUDA now, as long as you're using version 560 or above and the latest CUDA packages. https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/nvidia-transitions-fully-towards-open-source-gpu-kernel-modules/
We've been using the open-source driver with workstation-grade cards at my employer for a while. The open-source driver didn't get full support for consumer-grade cards until version 560 which was only released around 6 months ago.
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EndeavourOS on my DD laptop with time shift in case an update wants to be a dick (or I do something stupid).
Proxmox VMs for when I'm feeling saucy.
Ain't no one got time for an unstable work machine.
I run my "work machine" (Windows 11 VM) in Proxmox, cause I aint running windows on bare metal π€ Also means it's always available wherever I happen to be, via Apache Guacamole. π
I love Mint for this reason.
When my OS works well enough that I don't even have to think about it day to day, it's doing its job.
the thing I think a lot of "linux dorks" (and I use that term lovingly) forget about is that most people want to work on their computer, not work on their computer. The OS, for most people, should be the software equivalent of a motherboard -- an invisible plinth upon which the actual things you care about sit. With a motherboard, that's your GPU, CPU, RAM, etc. and with the OS, that's the applications you run.
there's nothing wrong with making fiddling with your computer a hobby, and I've been known to dabble myself over the years, but for me and most other normal people, that ends up being too much work for too little reward in the end. Mint getting to the point where you can daily drive it and not have to worry about it even if you're a complete brainlet when it comes to Linux is a massive W.
What happens if I also tinker with hardware? Does that mean I am a mother dorker?
Why do you think I shill NixOS here and actually installed Mint on my mom's laptop?
As someone who used Linux Mint for a while and will always keep it in my heart as my stable transition from windows, Pop OS is just about as easy with a much nicer out-of-the-box UI (especially love the native dock). So for anyone like me, try it out.
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I use Arch BTW.
Today the liquidctl integration of cooler control died, making all my fans go into a safe profile which makes a lot more noise than normal. Imagine having to listen to that for an hour trying to get it working again. I did get it working luckily, somehow the coolercontrol-liqctld python module didn't register properly. Once I got the module registered everything was working, for now....
Not gonna lie, I'm glad I've moved from Arch to Tumbleweed. Media codecs are handled worse somehow, but I haven't had to deal with crap like this ever sinceβ¦
You have to add the source with the non free codec packages:
https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Installing_codecs_from_Packman_repositories
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yea this is probably the most annoying issue i've had on Arch. every time there's a new version of Python, you'll need to reinstall some python packages, usually the AUR stuff.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Python#Module_not_found_after_Python_version_update
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People who understand Linux Mint and other complex distros at a deep level:
god mode
As a windows user I didn't like Mint
I tried out Kubuntu and it was really nice.
+1 Kubuntu.
KDE Plasma and Debian is where it's at.
Comfortable, familiar OS GUI, working drivers out of the box, and a non crashing kernel with updates once a month.
And also steam works.
Steam and gaming working is a big thing.
Like 96.6% of the operating system.
KDE Plasma and Debian is where itβs at.
Yep, in fact sadly I move away from Ubuntu after years of using because of the slow yet seemingly inexorable trend toward bloatware. Going back to the "basics" with Debian, and keeping KDE, made the transition very easy. As you also highlight, Steam works perfectly. Anyway, time to go back to Elden Ring ;)
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Why didn't you like mint? It's set up pretty much like windows.
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I'm not OP, but I also prefer KDE over Cinnamon. The size/spacing of the buttons on the left side of the start menu/application launcher looks weird to me, and while I'm sure there's merits to Cinnamon that was enough to sour my tastes.
A windows like linux isn't really attractive to a windows user, they just want an intuitive but also customizable system. Chances are Windows users trying linux still have their old windows system, anyways. Why would they want a windows and also a fake windows?
There are a lot of reasons people might want to switch to Linux from Windows, but I don't think it's usually the GUI that's the main problem on the Windows side. I think it's pretty reasonable to want the GUI to work in the way you're used to but still want an OS that doesn't shove ads at you, install AI without your permission, bug you about Teams and OneDrive, reboot every time it needs to update anything, etc.
Because modern windows is garbage and old windows is full of holes. Or at least that's why I switched π€·
Kubuntu is great nowadays.
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I'm so glad I chose right, mint is indeed amazing and easy
Debian stable, I guess, has both people sleeping on cruise control. Fine until it stops being fine, and then a flurry of activity.
Edit: or maybe a train. Boring, except for updates and dist upgrades.
Dist upgrades when you've neglected a server for 3 years is a fun activity. Many versions of the upgrader don't work, need to take a specific upgrade path that lacks documentation. Mainly achieved by trial and error.
Do your upgrades regularly, kids . π
At one point I rebuilt a server by fully abandoning the package database and reinstalling everything as overwrites. Converted a slackware install into a Debian install in situ by cannibalizing it from the inside out. Pretty proud of that one, even 20 years later.
edit: oh gods.. more like 24.
Wow, 2000's era was the wild west of Linux. π I remember installing distros from DVDs attached to magazines. π€
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Can you link to the artist?
Oof. Looking at the WordPress it's almost a time capsule. They got viral with this one and thought they could make it a full business by depreciating the WordPress domain and going to a .com site. The site is now dead.
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My shack pc is a tv box with a custom version of armbian, basically it's barely holding itself together, but it still works decently for digital modes, so i'm not complaining; i couldn't imagine the torture that would be daily driving that monstrosity
By the wire that powers the PSU, by the CPU on all-high! By the bus and system fans, blessed be... There she lies... The Magnum Opus!
WITNESS ME
WITNESS NT
Yeah, fuck Windows. I just had a focus stealing pop-up from HP that demanded a reboot.
I had put the pop-up to the side to finish some work before I'd let it reboot. Pressed enter to finish the message I was composing, only for the pop-up to once again steal focus, and given that "restart" was the only button on that pop-up, it immediately restarted the PC.
I do not understand why Windows lets windows steal focus like that. I have to use Windows for work, and I'll be typing in my password or token, and it'll steal the focus WHILE I'M TYPING. It's infuriating behavior and potentially a security issue.
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