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[–] Godort@lemm.ee 152 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I'm not worried about this specific apocalypse, if only because there is literally nothing that can be done to prevent it nor stop it if it starts.

I'm far more worried about more localized, preventable, human-caused apocalypse like climate or nuclear war.

[–] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 46 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Also, we won't see it coming and won't feel it happen. As far as deaths go, it's about as easy as it gets.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

on the bonus side takes Trump, Elon, Nigel and Tate with it.

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[–] Tower@lemm.ee 15 points 5 months ago

Exactly. Same energy as worrying about Earth being hit by a gamma ray burst - 🤷‍♂️

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I would be very glad if it was something only destructive to humans, and not the planet(s ecosystems).

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The dowvotes signal a trend against misanthropy, which is the only logical conclusion.

Let me test this theory: We are a virus. An STD that is always lethal and should be eradicated for the planet's good.

But also let me quote Dostoyevsky to end my point positively:

“I have seen the truth; I have seen and I know that people can be beautiful and happy. ... I will not and cannot believe that evil is the normal condition of mankind.”

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[–] Xanthrax@lemmy.world 74 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children)

Wikipedia:

"threat

If our universe is in a false vacuum state rather than a true vacuum state, then the decay from the less stable false vacuum to the more stable true vacuum (called false vacuum decay) could have dramatic consequences.[5][6] The effects could range from complete cessation of existing fundamental forces, elementary particles and structures comprising them, to subtle change in some cosmological parameters, mostly depending on the potential difference between true and false vacuum. Some false vacuum decay scenarios are compatible with the survival of structures like galaxies, stars,[7][8] and even biological life,[9] while others involve the full destruction of baryonic matter[10] or even immediate gravitational collapse of the universe.[11] In this more extreme case, the likelihood of a "bubble" forming is very low (i.e. false vacuum decay may be impossible).[12] "

Also, of course there's a Kurzesagt

[–] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 16 points 5 months ago (11 children)

Does this mean the laws of physics could just... Change?

Hoping for the scenario that means FTL travel is possible and nothing else changes lol

[–] Masta_Chief@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago

Irl physics patch is crazy

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[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm going to file this under the category of philosophy similar to "what if we're living in a simulation?" and "parallel universe" theory. As far as I'm aware we have no evidence that there's even such thing as a false vacuum, so this is all just speculation based on some theories.

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, if you need existential dread, a gamma-ray burst could end us in an instant too and they're confirmed to exist and much more likely.

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[–] 8000gnat@reddthat.com 7 points 5 months ago

maybe you couldn't survive it but I'm built different

[–] Kornblumenratte@feddit.org 4 points 5 months ago

"We like to destroy the universe at least every couple of months."

[–] ace_garp@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Well, that sucks.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 58 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Subatomically dispersed at the speed of light is probably the best way to go. And no one would be left to mourn you.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 11 points 5 months ago

Beam be everywhere, Scotty!

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 39 points 5 months ago (7 children)

Luckily, this is the epitome of that Epicurus quote:

Why should I fear death? If I am, then death is not. If Death is, then I am not. Why should I fear that which can only exist when I do not?

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's not the death I'm worried about. I just don't want to suffer leading up to it or put my family through some long drawn out ordeal watching me die.

[–] Fridgeratr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Well good news, false vacuum decay would kill everyone on Earth instantly with no warning

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Then I'm not worried about it.

[–] Fridgeratr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Same here. Like, that would obviously suck, but 🤷

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I mean sure, it'd suck, but no one would be around to think it sucks, so it'd be fine 😎👆👉👆👉

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

How to remove all suffering. Utilitarians hate this simple trick!

[–] threeduck@aussie.zone 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

You know how when you get put under for anaesthesia, and you don't notice the time you were gone? It's like a cut in the tape of life.

What if death is like that, and BAM your consciousness re-emerges billions of years in the future the moment you die.

But your consciousness is alone. And in pitch black nothingness. Forever.

[–] Earflap@reddthat.com 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

This is what I think happens. You don't experience death, you just reemerge on the other side, no matter how long it takes.

The chances of your brain being created were infinitely small before you were born, but it still only took 14 billion years for it to happen.

[–] Famko@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Entropy would end up taking your consciousness as well, so I doubt you'd be there, 14.3 billions years later, forever.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

We don't really know what consciousness is, so we can't really be sure that it is subject to entropy.

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[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 5 points 5 months ago

Well, maybe it's because we mostly fear the WAY towards death, not the end of being a thing that is. Unless we get hit by a moving train...

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[–] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 36 points 5 months ago (3 children)

If our particular bubble of the universe has remained unmolested for 13.8 billion years, it is safe to assume it will continue to be for the next 1000 years.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Also it's not like assuming it will collapse in the next decade will make any difference other than having a harder time enjoying the time before then.

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago

that's what the vacuum aliens WANT you to think

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[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 28 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Gamma Ray Burst

Sleep tight

[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'd much prefer death by a solar system wide tsunami of highly energetic particles then the slow, agonizing death march we're currently doing.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 5 points 5 months ago

I was gonna say it might be worse if you're on the opposite side of the planet that gets hit but I'll give you that one.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago

Never trust a gamma ray burst

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 22 points 5 months ago

I believe that it is possible that false vacuum decay has already begun, but so far away that it might not ever reach us.

[–] ladicius@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Every day, when I see or hear someone driving a gas vehicle. So like, all the time.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Uh yeah, I sure hope it doesn't

[–] kunegis@mander.xyz 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Obligatory mention of the novel [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schild%27s_Ladder](Schild's Ladder) by Greg Egan.

Such a scenario would be interesting indeed.

[–] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

His books are always at least a little mind-bending

[–] ace_garp@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

He is exceptional at writing hard sci-fi that unnerves you.

I'm moderately certain, whichever future timeline we move to, there will be aspects of Egan's works.

Modern day Jules Verne, recommended to read at least one book of his.

[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 6 points 5 months ago

Metastable equilibria.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago
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