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Unnecessary and deeply concerning bow to the new "king"

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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 95 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Makes me feel a lot less confident about having a protonmail account. Best alternatives for privacy?

[–] TheHobbyist@lemmy.zip 11 points 5 months ago (10 children)
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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Best? Hosting an encrypted email server in your own house. As a service, mailfence seems to be a decent alternative

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[–] Killercat103@slrpnk.net 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Perhaps riseup if youre an anarchist or posteo if youre willing to pay a low fee?

I use posteo myself. Its alright and reliable. Would try Riseup (kinda got political) but idk anyone to ask for an invite code

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[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 91 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The fuck? Way to flush the credibility they built down the drain.

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[–] BenDoubleU@lemmy.radio 55 points 5 months ago (5 children)

I guess Andy or the proton social media team has started using the corporate bluesky account to discuss it now.

https://bsky.app/profile/proton.me/post/3lfrqm6wpzs2p

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

interesting that it's deleted now

anyone got a screenshot?

[–] BenDoubleU@lemmy.radio 26 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Wow they really need to get in check. I do have the screenshots

[–] ansiz@lemmy.world 38 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Hilarious, talks about corporate Dems yet is supporting corporate Republicans. Elon Musk is arguably the face of big tech and so acting like Trump is going to 'do something' to big tech is also delusional. Big tech has already gotten out the checkbooks and kissed the ring down in Florida.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Thiel, Musk, Zuck, and Bezos among others.

It's beyond parody that you'd pretend Republicans aren't owned by corporate and tech interests, I quite frankly don't believe he believes it.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 5 months ago

ugh gross they think trump, who has big tech ceos lining up at his door, or the republicans, who want to kill encryption and vpn accesses are going to tackle big tech? welp time to get a refund.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 months ago

We didn't get what we wanted so we choose evil.

Never used em but i feel for people who did.

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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 35 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No one going to comment the Trump absolutely did not write that? Read it; completely coherent, proper English, all that.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not one all caps word. No fuckin way he wrote that.

[–] NotAnotherLemmyUser@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

Well... The word "FAIRLY" was written in all caps.

[–] ohellidk@sh.itjust.works 33 points 5 months ago

Was considering them, now I'm not. I'll keep using mullvad.

[–] aseriesoftubes@lemmy.world 31 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yikes. I was just about to shell out for Proton VPN, but now I won’t.

[–] Skydancer@pawb.social 36 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I would suggest Mullvad as a trustworthy alternative.

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[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 23 points 5 months ago
[–] nimble@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 5 months ago

Speedrun any% to kiss that ring

[–] urheber@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I was wondering, is proton as trustworthy as everybody says? I generally dislike it because its closed source, but that makes sense considering they have to host servers. but this makes it seem... uncredible. any alternative to protonmail?

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Proton better shut this dude up as I really don't want to find a new platform :|

[–] rikonium@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

bad news, Proton’s official reddit account doubled-down on it as a company position (edit: but it was also him too)

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 5 months ago

ugh, gross. i just signed up for a month to try and get away from google and the rest of the us companies bending the knee. how to trust proton that they won't give up your data the second trump asks now? time to get a refund and put it toward infomaniak sigh

[–] sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today 9 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I just dislike that they had to take a political stance at all. Companies and celebrities should stay out of politics and focus on what they're good at/known for.

[–] donuts@lemmy.world 53 points 5 months ago (15 children)

Don't agree completely. Celebrities are people too, they can use their voice to do good and activate people with regards to politics. Kinda cruel to just say "focus on what you're known for, which is a pretty face. I don't care about anything else that makes you human"

[–] deadcream@sopuli.xyz 11 points 5 months ago

I feel like the rules are different here. This dude is not a celebrity, he is a CEO of a company which mission is to provide a secure and private email service. I don't care about him as a person, he represents his company here. His job is to make sure that the data of his customers does not get in the wrong hands, and being as apolitical as possible is part of it. (Unless it's speaking up against laws that will undermine his business such as banning encryption, but that's not what's happening here).

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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago

I mean, I don't agree with his politics. But this opinion is no different than telling football players to shut up and play football when they were speaking out against systemic violence against minority black communities.

[–] htrayl@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

Echo the disagreement. Yes it makes like more complicated, but it is important to know who/what you are supporting.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not normalizing traitors to the species isn't exactly "political", it's the lowest imaginable bar, and he couldn't clear it.

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[–] heavydust@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I believe that but it would be good to have a source and an archive of the original tweet.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

FFS. Unfortunately there really isn't a good alternative to Proton right now (don't @ me about Tuta until you've seen how much downtime they had recently).

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[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 months ago

They use examples of when they did pro-left actions in the apology and explanation , but they never once proclaimed with their official account support for the left, and that's the difference.

The apology and explanation fell way short of the mark. He tried to appease the facists and alienated Proton top clients.

[–] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Does anyone have info on the ‘two anti trust bills’ the official account is talking about?

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The two antitrust bills associated with Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer are:

  1. American Innovation and Choice Online Act (AICOA): Sponsored by Sen. Amy Klobuchar, this bill aimed to prevent Big Tech platforms like Amazon from favoring their own products over competitors' in online marketplaces[1][3].

  2. Open App Markets Act (OAMA): Led by Sen. Richard Blumenthal, this bill sought to curb Apple and Google's dominance in the app ecosystem by promoting fair competition and limiting self-preferencing[1][3].

Despite bipartisan support, Schumer did not bring these bills to a vote, effectively stalling their progress[1][3].

Citations: [1] Schumer Kills Bills Big Tech Feared Most | TIME https://time.com/6243256/schumer-kills-antitrust-big-tech-bills/ [2] Senate leader Schumer met with Microsoft President Brad Smith to ... https://fedscoop.com/senate-leader-chuck-schumer-met-with-microsoft-president-brad-smith-re-anti-big-tech-bills/ [3] Schumer Accused of Caving to Big Tech as Antitrust Bills Languish https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/12/17/schumer-accused-caving-big-tech-antitrust-bills-languish [4] faq https://www.google.ca/policies/faq [5] Big Tech And Its Congressional Allies Kill Most - HuffPost https://www.huffpost.com/entry/big-tech-antitrust-bills-chuck-schumer_n_63a20cd6e4b0aeb2ace81d7d [6] Progressives pressure Schumer to call a vote on tech antitrust bills https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/22/23273924/progressives-antitrust-reform-bills-klobuchar-chuck-schumer-aico [7] With clock ticking, battle over tech regulation intensifies https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/06/27/antitrust-tech-battle-congress/

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